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Officials Eye Columbia's Last Overhaul
CBS News ^ | Feb.16, 2003 | Unknown

Posted on 02/16/2003 7:05:29 PM PST by conservativecorner

(CBS) The space shuttle Columbia's last major overhaul — the largest in the history of the program — involved some components and systems now under suspicion in the investigation into the orbiter's final, disastrous descent.

No evidence has emerged linking the work performed on Columbia during the 17-month refurbishment to the shuttle's breakup Feb 1. Columbia flew one successful mission after the overhaul was completed in 2001.

However, inspection and work records from that overhaul at the Boeing Co. plant where the shuttle was built in Palmdale, Calif., may hold clues.

Among the modifications to NASA's oldest shuttle were increased protection from space debris and enhanced heat protection for the leading edges of the wings.

According to NASA, the spacecraft's aluminum frame also was closely inspected for signs of fatigue or corrosion. It's not clear, and NASA officials could not immediately say, what was found and how much repair work took place.

The shuttle's first layer of protection, the fragile reinforced carbon tiles, also were closely inspected and repaired or replaced where necessary.

Disaster investigators have said they believe a hole or gash allowed superheated gases to penetrate Columbia as it entered Earth's atmosphere. They don't believe overheating detected in the left wing before the breakup could have been caused simply by the loss of tiles. Other possible causes include space debris or the impact of a piece of hard insulation that broke off the external tank shortly after launch.

During the 1999-2001 overhaul of Columbia, much of the emphasis was on wiring. In its last mission before the overhaul, July 1999, a worn wire caused a power fluctuation that led two engine controllers to shut down five seconds after launch. Backup controllers took over automatically and the flight was not affected.

About 95 percent of the shuttle's 235 miles of wire was inspected, including wires that connect to the sensors that eventually reported higher-than-normal temperatures just before the shuttle broke apart.

Technicians alqo(semoved 1,000 pounds of old wiring and equipment used to monitor Columbia's earliest flights 20 years ago.

During the overhaul, an independent board reviewing safety measures noted metal shavings in the shuttle, on walking platforms and wire bundles.

"These occurrences are considered potential sources of foreign object debris and could damage surrounding wire insulation or provide an electrical shorting path," the report said.

Henry McDonald, the report's lead author and former director of NASA Ames Research Center, declined to comment.

A Palmdale Boeing employee, who asked not to be identified, said there also were many "stumble-ons," or instances when technicians happened upon something needing repair. But he was unaware of any case in which a problem was not resolved.

In March 2002, Columbia's first launch after the work was done, NASA considered aborting the mission because of a problem with coolant lines. It was later determined the problem stemmed from debris left during the overhaul.

As has often been the case with the shuttle program, the Palmdale project was both behind schedule and over budget. It lasted 17 months instead of the expected nine and cost $145 million instead of $70 million.

Even after Columbia was shipped back to Kennedy Space Center in February 2001, it underwent several more months of work until the March 2002 launch.

Al Feinberg, a NASA spokesman, said wiring work was the reason for the delay and it was not unusual for work to be finished at Kennedy.

Dan Beck, a Boeing spokesman, wouldn't discuss details about why the job took so long.

"Because of our firm commitment on safety for our flight crews and the vehicles, we weren't going to be tied to any specific timetable to complete that work if there were still some outstanding areas that needed the attention of the maintenance and modification crew," he said.

Officials of United Space Alliance, NASA's prime shuttle contractor of which Boeing is a part-owner, did not respond to written questions.

NASA says shuttles receive major overhauls once every three years. Until 2001, that work took place at Palmdale, about 60 miles northeast of Los Angeles. NASA and the United Space Alliance announced after Columbia left Palmdale that all future overhauls would take place at Kennedy.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 02/16/2003 7:05:29 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: snopercod; conservativecorner
Bump.
2 posted on 02/16/2003 7:30:27 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute; bonesmccoy; XBob; r9etb; spunkets
Thanks for the flag.
To: bonesmccoy

I have already posted my "bias" against Palmdale earlier in this thread - I have seen their work.

But you seem reluctant to even discuss the possibility that the workers in Palmdale might have caused some hidden damage to the leading edge of the wing when Columbia was there for OMDP. Is there some reason why this subject is "off limits" on "your" thread?

And excuse me very greatly for adding a piece of information that "you and XBob weren't talking about". My mistake.

Putting it another way, is this thread a search for the truth, or just a vanity thread?

1972 posted on 02/15/2003 3:54 PM EST by snopercod
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To: bonesmccoy

Pointing a finger at OMDP seems ridiculous because the vehicle had already flown one mission after OMDP and prior to STS-107.

Oh, so raising a legitimate question is now "finger pointing"? My original question was "Were the RCC leading edge sections removed and reinstalled in Palmdale?" Why do you find that question threatening?

The subject is...not reasonable because the vehicle flew an entire mission and had the inspections involved at KSC after OMDP.

I have no knowledge that the RCC leading sections were removed for inspection at KSC. That's why I was asking the question. Removing the tiles just aft of the RCC sections in order to inspect the inconnel attachment hardware is a major undertaking, as you might imagine, and if it had been done at Palmdale during OMDP, then almost certainly it was not done again at KSC.

Are you saying that if some attachment hardware were not intalled properly, then it would have to fail on the first flight, not the second? Certainly, if you have any familiarity with mechanical systems, you know better than that.

How can you insinuate in good conscience that a hairline crack could exist and be created by Boeing at Palmdale given all of the dynamics we have already discussed?

I didn't insinuate any such thing. What I did question was whether the RCC attachment hardware could have been installed improperly at Palmdale.

It is sometimes laughable that our national space program begins to hassle with regional political views (negatively impacting our program as a result).

Oh, I agree completely. Congress funded a study to determine whether it was safer and more cost-effective to perform the OMDP at Palmdale or at KSC. The report concluded that KSC was the cheaper of the two, and safer for the shuttle, since it didn't have to be ferried across the country twice.

But thanks to Congressman Sensenbrenner holding the funding for ISS hostage, OMDPs are still done at Palmdale.

1984 posted on 02/15/2003 4:28 PM EST by snopercod
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It's good to be the king...


3 posted on 02/17/2003 3:53:08 AM PST by snopercod
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To: Thud; Resolute; bribriagain; John Jamieson; Budge; tubebender
Among the modifications to NASA's oldest shuttle were increased protection from space debris and enhanced heat protection for the leading edges of the wings.

I'd say their "enhanced heat protection" mod didn't work all that well.

4 posted on 02/17/2003 5:13:48 AM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod
As usual... typically low-brow, and low-road...
You've managed to not include my response to you on the subject:
Observation on TPS damage on Orbiter

Posted by bonesmccoy to snopercod
On News/Activism 02/15/2003 1:38 PM PST #1,988 of 2,410

Snopercod,

Raising a legit question about OMDP's mods is appropriate. I have no bone to pick with that.

OTOH, it IS annoying to have people elevating conjecture to the level of a hypothesis without merit.

Are you honestly suggesting that the ice/foam hit would have nothing to do with any damage of the RCC/LESS/TPS at the left wing leading edge

versus

an undetected problem with the installation of RCC which flew on an entire mission cycle without being noticed and that the ice hit is just a coincidence?
5 posted on 02/17/2003 8:33:43 AM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: bonesmccoy
Well here's another "low brow" comment: You still have not disclosed why your hackles come up when I question the skill of the temps hired by Boeing to work on the Shuttle whenever it goes out there. I ask again, what is your relationship to Boeing/Palmdale, if any?

You have done a great job of analysis over on "your" thread. But frankly, you have gotten married to your thesis to the exclusion of all other evidence.

The fact that a major modification was made to Columbia's leading edge RCC in 1999 should pique your interest, regardless of where it was done.

But apparently not.

6 posted on 02/17/2003 1:42:42 PM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod
Is there some reason why this subject is "off limits" on "your" thread?

And excuse me very greatly for adding a piece of information that "you and XBob weren't talking about". My mistake.


I don't know anything much about Palmdale, except that when recieved 'rebuilt' orbiters back from Palmdale, there was a lot of stuff left 'undone'

I dont discuss it because:
1. I never worked there and don't know much about it (note I don't discuss Houston either)
2. Finalization of the rebuild is done at KSC, and it had a successful flight prior to this problem. So, while theoretically possible, it is highly unlikely that Palmdale had anything to do with the problem, other than perhaps failing to remove the RCC and check for corrosion of the mounting bolts.

So I put my energy into the more 'probable' areas of problem origin.
7 posted on 02/17/2003 5:22:53 PM PST by XBob
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To: snopercod
I re-read a corrosion article last nite, and it said that the main corrosion problems were associated with the incompatibility of the Inconel (i think) attch bolts and the aluminum of the honeycomb. Apparently they changed the aluminumhoney comb metal ally on later orbiters.

However, I can personally vouch for the corrosion I saw on some parts made of Aluminum and Stainless Steel (Inconel is a type of stainless steel if I remember correctly) . They were real and some severe, when exposed to the salt air of Kennedy Space Center. I had to get procurement to open a new contract, and reopen a factory, to rebuild 17 of these components for replacement specifically beacuse of this problem.

It was an original design problem, which failed to take into account the salt air at KSC and the original parts design.

8 posted on 02/17/2003 5:35:13 PM PST by XBob
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To: bonesmccoy
bump this and the next
9 posted on 02/17/2003 5:38:46 PM PST by XBob
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To: snopercod
yawn.

Did you actually read and cogitate on the my previous comments on this matter?

It seems that you would rather create a straw man (since I've never attempted to dissuade you from discussing OMDP).

I would rather that you deal with facts and also understand that there are plenty in the media who would like to create arguing and finger pointing in order to sell their papers.

LATimes has already attempted to start that dysfunctional and counterproductive behavior with their story claiming that Columbia was prone to mishaps. What a lark!
10 posted on 02/17/2003 11:02:11 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: XBob
Very interesting about the corrosion. Thanks.

Inconnel is a 70% nickel alloy. It looks just like stainless steel, but it has only 6% Iron in it. It is even farther down the galvanic scale from Aluminum than Iron, so theoretically, electrochemical corrosion would be more of a problem.

Also, I understand that you can get galvanic corrosion from carbon fibers (like in fiberglass airplanes), but have no knowledge of that.

Are you sure you want to dismiss the modifications to the leading edge as a contributing factor even before you know what they consisted of or why they were done?

11 posted on 02/18/2003 2:15:57 AM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod
Inconnel=Inconel (must have more coffee...)

Exerpt from Corrosion suggested in shuttle crash by James Oberg posted at MSNBC.

HOUSTON, Feb. 9 — Undetected corrosion that had weakened Columbia’s left wing could be the still-sought “missing link” between the otherwise-harmless debris impact during launch and the eventual vehicle loss during descent, a veteran shuttle engineer claims.

~~~~~snip~~~~~

The bolts were made of Inconel 718 alloy and of A286 corrosion-resistent steel (CRES), and they were not affected. But the structure, fabricated from 2024 aluminum honeycomb, did corrode when salt spray from the nearby ocean was dissolved in rainwater and seeped into the structure while Columbia was on the launch pad. Launchings had begun in 1981. “In 1983,” Erikson wrote, “corrosion was detected around the attach points” of the panels. The damage was discovered during careful post-flight interior inspections of the wings. Aluminum splints were glued to the corroded areas, a process that was repeated for several years while Erikson was working at the launch site. He recalled that access to this area was so tight that only one person on his team, “a tiny English fellow,” could even crawl into the wing to perform inspections and repair. Erikson did not know what subsequent repair and replacement was performed after he left in 1985.

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Yet as recently as 2001, corrosion was raised during considerations of Columbia’s major modifications performed at the Palmdale, Calif., manufacturing facility and later at the Kennedy Space Center. When asked if deferring vehicle inspections to a new team in Florida would “incur additional risks,” Richard Blomberg, chairman of NASA’s “Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel,” said: “Personally, I don’t think if we slowed down on the corrosion inspections for a while, that there would be any immediate safety concerns.” However, he expressed concerns about longer-term issues....


12 posted on 02/18/2003 2:30:50 AM PST by snopercod
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To: bonesmccoy
...I've never attempted to dissuade you from discussing OMDP).

Well doc, let's pull the charts and examine the record on that one. I brought up the question of the OMDP [Orbiter Maintenance Down Period] at Palmdale on the day the Columbia was lost, in the very first thread here at FR.

Here is our exchange on OMDP: Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!

To: anymouse

The tire pressure data is not readily available to the crew, IIRC - only on...what was it...Spec 60 or something. Don't know if they would get an SM alert - probably would, but I think that Houston would monitor that stuff for them and advise.

It's hard to imagine how a MLG door could open without a mechanical failure of some kind. The overcenter lock is hydrauliclly operated, with pyro backup.

I just heard that this was Columbia's first flight after OMDP. I don't know if that's true, and if so, whether the OMDP was done at Palmdale or KSC.

All I know is that every time an orbiter came back from OMDP at Palmdale, it was totally trashed by those pot-smoking derelicts out there. There were always well over 1,000 IPR's taken on the damage when an orbiter arrived back home. (Yes KSC is their home, not Palmdale.

1208 posted on 02/01/2003 11:24 AM EST by snopercod


To: snopercod

Gads, what's with you guys blaming OMDP in Palmdale.

The ground crews at KSC do more with the vehicle after delivery and there's more than enough blame to go around.

Pointing fingers at Palmdale is totally poor.

1253 posted on 02/01/2003 11:28 AM EST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)


To: bonesmccoy

Pointing fingers at Palmdale is totally poor.

I didn't realize that you have some connection to Palmdale and/or Rockwell.

This may have absolutely nothing to do with the loss of the Columbia.

BUT, I have personally been in the midbody of the shuttle and seen with my own eyes the "professional" work done by the Palmdale people - the stepped-on boron struts, intercostals, wiring harnesses, and tubing. I have personally viewed the IPR log when the Columbia came back from Palmdale. I have personaly knowledge of the months of additional processing time required to repair all the damage they did out there.

Facts are facts. The Palmdale workers butcher the shuttle every single time they get their hands on it.

1495 posted on 02/01/2003 11:54 AM EST by snopercod


To: snopercod

cheap shot...
california could criticize Florida too.
But given today's events, we will withhold comment.

1764 posted on 02/01/2003 12:57 PM EST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)


To: bonesmccoy

No cheap shot intended toward you. We can talk about Palmdale some other time, but I did confirm that the OMDP was done there. This is Columbia's first flight after.

On September 24, 1999, Columbia was transported to Palmdale California for its second ODMP. While in California, workers will perform more than 100 modifications on the vehicle. Columbia will be the second orbiter outfitted with the multi-functional electronic display system (MEDS) or "glass cockpit".

1948 posted on 02/01/2003 1:48 PM EST by snopercod

(I later corrected myself (#1966). STS-107 was the second flight after OMDP.)

13 posted on 02/18/2003 3:37:14 AM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod
11-You are welcome.

11 " I understand that you can get galvanic corrosion from carbon fibers (like in fiberglass airplanes), but have no knowledge of that."

Interesting - I didn't know that.

"Are you sure you want to dismiss the modifications to the leading edge as a contributing factor even before you know what they consisted of or why they were done?"

No, I dismiss nothing yet. I do think that it is highly unlikely that particular work would have been rechecked at KSC, though, if completed by Rockwell, owing to hastle of getting to it to inspect it.

I helped finish rebuilding Colombia at KSC, after it was 'rebuilt' by Rockwell in California, in about 1990-1. It took us 2 1/2 months to 'finish' Rockwell's 'finished' rebuild, correcting their errors and finishing some of their 'unfinished' finished work.

However, that was done, this time too, and one successful flight was completed after the latest rebuild. So I think it less probable.

I was particularly interested in the part about the bolts going into the aluminum honeycomb, as I now feel that the honeycomb was burning as the plazma came in some how/where, because the foam impact penetrated through the tiles to the honeycomb but not through into to the interior, burning away the honeycomb, while not yet affecting the longitudinal wing spars. And the Colombia was the last bird with the old aluminum alloy honeycomb.

I still think the structurally weak area of the web, behind the RCCs was compromised, collapsed, and caused the chunk out over arizona, photographed at Albequerque, and possible zippered more of the leading edge RCC, and (now that I learn that the RCC is mounted into honeycomb too, I am more convinced). Perhaps the RCC was hit by the foam first, then bounced and hit/smashed further back on the wing. I think the strength of the landing gear wheel well held the wing together from albequerque to dallas, where the elevon failed.

I am working areas I think are more probable, not all possible areas. It's taking too much of my time just to work on the more probables, without working on the less probables.

If you could give me some more reasons, I would be happy to try to explore your theory more.

PS - I think that the 'block' of insulation was in fact, a repair/access replacemet block of insulation for which the tank surface was not properly cleaned/primed. And it got sucked out as a unit, and that they haven't told us about that repair.

The repair would be on record, as to exact, time/place/size/shape. Such an exact measurment (1920 cubic inches)? from such a long distance fuzzy video?

PS - I just thought of something to reinforce your Palmdale thesis. I understand that was the last Palmdale rebuild, and future rebuilds were transferred to KSC. That would mean a lot of PO'd, about to be permanently laid off, employees at Palmdale, if my facts are correct and they knew about it at that time (this last part is supposition).
14 posted on 02/18/2003 4:10:45 AM PST by XBob
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To: snopercod
well, I tought it made one good flight since last rebuild. Maybe I am wrong.
15 posted on 02/18/2003 4:22:25 AM PST by XBob
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To: XBob
Excellent synopsis. All that sounds good to me. Thanks for backing me up on the 1990 rework at KSC.

I was wrong that STS-107 was the first flight after OMDP. STS-109 was the first. I corrected myself on the original thread.

16 posted on 02/18/2003 4:55:39 AM PST by snopercod
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