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The Role of Biblical Scholarship at Waco:
Email | 3/10/94 | James D. Tabor

Posted on 02/16/2003 10:11:17 AM PST by pwatson

To: PWatson @ SMTP From: JDTABOR Subject: Re: SEVEN SEALS Date: 3/10/94 Time: 7:21a And last, but not least.... Bob

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The Role of Biblical Scholarship at Waco: One Attempt to Avert Disaster

by James D. Tabor Associate Professor Department of Religious Studies University of North Carolina at Charlotte

Copyright March 1994 by James D. Tabor. Permission is granted for non-commercial replication of or excerpting from this material, provided that appropriate notice is included of its copyright status, as above.

===== The Koresh Package includes the following electronic files from James Tabor (jdtabor@unccvm.uncc.edu): David Koresh's Unfinished Manuscript on the Seven Seals, edited by James Tabor and Phillip Arnold Events at Waco: and Interpretive Log Rethinking Waco: the Perspective of the Academic Study of Religion The Role of Biblical Scholarship at Waco: One Attempt to Avert Disaster =====

THE ROLE OF BIBLICAL SCHOLARSHIP AT WACO: ONE ATTEMPT TO AVERT DISASTER

It was 7:25 p.m. on Sunday, February 28, 1993. My attention was suddenly riveted to an unfamiliar voice, edged with an appealing intensity, coming over CNN on the television in the next room. Anchorman David French had someone on a phone hookup who was quoting Biblical passages in a steady stream. A photo of a young man with glasses and long wavy hair, which was later to become familiar around the world, was on the TV screen against a backdrop of a map of Texas with a place marked as ``Mt. Carmel,'' near Waco. Regular CNN programing had been interrupted. It was obvious that some emergency situation was unfolding. I had not yet heard of the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Bureau raid on Mt. Carmel that very morning at 9:55 a.m. which resulted in a two hour gun battle with the Branch Davidians, the religious group which lived there, leaving four AFT agents dead and 15 wounded. For the moment my attention was drawn to two things which fascinated me. The young man from Texas called himself David Koresh, and he was talking about the ``Seven Seals'' of the book of Revelation. As a Biblical scholar I knew that Koresh was the Hebrew word for Cyrus, the ancient Persian King who destroyed the Babylonian empire in 539 B.C.E. I was intrigued that anyone would have such a last name. Also, I was quite familiar with the mysterious Seven Seals in the last book of the Bible, and how they unfolded in an apocalyptic sequence leading to the Judgment Day and the End of the World. Like any good newsperson, CNN anchorman French kept trying to get David Koresh to talk about the morning raid, how many had been killed or wounded from his group, and whether he planned to surrender. Koresh admitted he was wounded badly, that his two year old daughter had been killed, and some others were killed and wounded from his group. But it was clear that he mainly wanted to quote scriptures, mostly from the book of Revelation. He said he was the Lamb, chosen to open the Seven Seals. He challenged religious leaders and Biblical scholars from around the world to come to Texas and engage in debate with him on the Bible, and particularly to try and match his understanding in unlocking the mystery of the Seven Seals.

The phone conversation over CNN went on for about 45 minutes. I was utterly taken with this whole scene. Here we were in the year 1993 and this young Cyrus, would-be challenger of modern Babylon, was actually delving into the details of the book of Revelation at prime time, over a worldwide television network. I pulled out a Bible and turned to Isaiah 45, where I recalled that the ancient Persian king Cyrus was addressed by God Himself:

Thus says the LORD to his anointed</>, to Cyrus (Koresh</>), whose right hand I have grasped to subdue nations before him and strip kings of their robes, to open doors before him.

Here Cyrus is actually called ``messiah,'' that is, one who is anointed. The Greek translation of this Hebrew word, mashiach</>, is ``Christos,'' from which we get our term ``Christ.'' So, one could accurately say that this ancient Persian king was called Christ. David Koresh also claimed to be such a ``Christ.'' This biblical terminology led to endless confusion and miscommunication between the secular media and the FBI on the one hand, and the followers of Koresh who lived and breathed these ancient texts. It was widely but incorrectly reported, even by the most responsible media, that David Koresh claimed to be Jesus Christ, or even God himself. This confusion resulted from a lack of understanding of the biblical use of the term ``anointed.'' In Biblical times both the high priests and the kings of Israel were anointed in a ceremony in which oil was poured over the head and beard (see Psalm 133). In other words, in this general sense of the term the Bible speaks of many ``christs'' or messiahs, not one. The word comes to refer to one who is especially selected by God for a mission, as was the Persian king Cyrus.

It was in this sense that David Koresh took the label ``Christ'' or messiah. He believed he was the chosen one who was to open the Seven Seals of the book of Revelation and bring on the downfall of ``Babylon.'' The early Christians were quite fond of the same kind of coded language. They routinely referred to the Roman empire as ``Babylon.'' The letter of 1 Peter closes with such a reference: ``She who is at Babylon (i.e. Rome), who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings'' (1 Peter 5:13). The book of Revelation is essentially a cryptic account of the destruction of ``Babylon,'' which was understood to be Rome (Revelation 19). I was later to learn that the children of the Branch Davidians routinely referred to the FBI and any other ``outsiders,'' as Babylonians.

Over the next few days, as the FBI took over control of the siege of the Mt. Carmel complex, it became clear to me that neither the officials in charge, nor the media who were sensationally reporting the sexual escapades of David Koresh, had a clue about the biblical</> world which this group inhabited. Their entire frame of reference came from the Bible, especially from the book of Revelation and the ancient Hebrew prophets. I realized that in order to deal with David Koresh, and to have any chance for a peaceful resolution of the Waco situation, one would have to understand and make use of these biblical texts. In other words, one would need to enter into the apocalyptic world of David Koresh and his dedicated followers. It was obvious that they were willing to die for what they believed, and they would not surrender under threat of force. I decided to contact the FBI and offer my services.

I called my friend Phillip Arnold, director of Reunion Institute in Houston, Texas. Dr. Arnold, like me, is a specialist in biblical studies and we share a special interest in both ancient and modern forms of apocalypticism</>. The term comes from the Greek word apocalypsis</>, which means ``to uncover, to reveal.'' The book of Revelation is often called the Apocalypse. An apocalyptic group is one which believes that the end of history is near and that the signs and secrets of the final scenario have been revealed to them. The followers of Jesus are properly understood as an apocalyptic movement within ancient Judaism, as was the group which produced the Dead Sea scrolls. Since the 3rd century B.C.E. many such groups, first Jewish and later Christian, have proclaimed the imminent ``end of the world'' on the basis of their understanding of biblical prophetic texts. Dr. Arnold agreed with me that it was urgent and vital that someone who understood the biblical texts become involved in the situation.

The first FBI agent Dr. Arnold contacted in Waco admitted that they were hopelessly confused when David Koresh went into one of his lengthy expositions of scripture, which occurred regularly in their daily telephone negotiations. In later interviews with survivors of the Waco tragedy the one point that they made repeatedly and consistently was that the source of their attraction to David Koresh was his knowledge of the Scriptures, particularly the book of Revelation. The FBI does not routinely pack Bibles when facing what they had categorized as a hostage situation. This FBI agent told us how they had been frantically reading through the book of Revelation in the Gideon Bibles in their hotel rooms. This image struck me as almost comical, but at the same time frightening. The agent also told us they found the book of Revelation and David Koresh's extended biblical monologues, wholly incomprehensible. He asked, ``What is this about the Seven Seals?'' We began to explain to him this reference to a mysterious scroll mentioned in the book of Revelation, which was sealed with wax stamps, and could only be opened by a figure variously referred to as the Lamb, the anointed one (i.e., Christ),or the Branch of David. David Koresh claimed to be this person, sent to the world before the end of the age and empowered to finally open this scroll. He saw himself as the ``sinful messiah'' mentioned in Psalm 45. This Psalm, which was vital to his whole self understanding, speaks of one riding a white horse and conquering, marrying many daughters of Israel, and raising up descendants on the earth. David understood this Psalm to be the key to interpreting the first Seal which pictures a mysterious rider on a white horse (Revelation 6:1-2). He felt he had literally fulfilled this prophecy, and that the first four Seals had already unfolded. He interpreted these Seals by the use of the Psalms, which he called the ``key of David'' (Revelation 3:7).

Over the next few weeks Dr. Arnold and I spent many hours in technical and lengthy discussions with Livingston Fagan, an articulate member of the Branch Davidians who had been sent out of the compound by David Koresh as a spokesperson and was being held in jail. With our knowledge of the prophetic texts of the Bible, and especially the book of Revelation, we slowly began to attain some understanding of David Koresh's interpretation.

It became obvious to us that the Branch Davidian group understood itself to be actually living through the events of the Seven Seals, found primarily in chapter six of the book of Revelation. We became persuaded that they understood themselves to be ``in the fifth seal.'' The text reads:

When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered for the word of God and for the testimony they had given; they cried out with a loud voice, ``Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long will it be</> before you judge an avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?'' They were each given a white robe and told to wait a little season</>, until the number would be complete both of their fellow servants and of their brothers who were soon to be killed</> as they themselves had been killed (Rev 6:9-11).

We discussed the chilling implications of these verses with the FBI. For the Koresh group the book of Revelation was like a script, setting forth in vivid detail what would transpire, and instructing them as to what they should do. The reason they refused to come out of their compound was that they felt God was telling them in these verses to wait ``a little season.'' But the verse goes on to predict that they, like the others in the February 28th ATF raid, would then be killed. David Koresh once told the federal agents, ``I knew you were coming before you knew you were coming.'' On the morning of that initial raid David had said to an undercover ATF man who was spying on the group, with whom David had studied the Bible even though he knew the man was a federal agent, ``What thou doest, do quickly'' (John 13:27). It was as if the entire situation in Waco was locked into a predetermined pattern, set forth in a book written around 96 C.E., during the reign of the Roman emperor Domitian. What worried us all was the very real possibility of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the Koresh group found itself living ``in the fifth seal'' did that mean it was inevitable that the remaining eighty- seven men, women, and children in the Mt. Carmel compound must also die? Might they not provoke a violent end to things simply because they felt it was the predetermined will of God, moving things along to the sixth seal, which was the great Judgment Day of God? We were fascinated by the way in which the literal words of this text dominated the entire situation. David Koresh insisted to the FBI that God had told him to ``wait'' an unspecified time, and the FBI constantly pushed him, asking ``how long?'' The entire drama was being played out according to a biblical script.

The book of Revelation, or Apocalypse, does provide just such a script. Parts of the text seem to date before the fall of Jerusalem in 70 C.E., although scholars date the book as a whole in the time of emperor Domitian (81-96 C.E.). The author, whose name is John (Revelation 1:1 and 22:8), is imprisoned on the island of Patmos when he receives the vision which he is told to write in a book. Scholars doubt that this particular John is the same as John the son of Zebedee, brother of James, the fisherman who becomes one of the twelve apostles of Jesus (Mark 1:16-20). He is apparently another John, known to us in later church traditions, associated with the area around Ephesus in Asia Minor. The book claims to reveal ``what must soon take place'' and declares that the ``time is near'' (Revelation 1:1,3).

The core of the book, chapters 6-19, presents an unfolding drama of end-time events, leading to a final Judgment Day and the millennial reign of Christ which is to follow. These events are shrouded in mysterious and symbolic language which is purposely cryptic. Like other apocalyptic works of that general time, such as the book of Enoch or 2 Esdras, only the ``wise'' are said to be able to understand the hidden meanings (Daniel 12:9-10). Nonetheless, it is clear that the scenario of the end progresses in three sequential stages: the opening of the Seven Seals (chapters 6-7), the blowing of Seven Trumpets (chapters 8-11), and the pouring out of Seven Bowls of Wrath (chapters 15-16). The utter destruction and fall of ``Babylon'' is detailed in chapters 18 and 19. There are eight major ``characters'' in the end-time drama of the book of Revelation: a seven-headed Beast; a two horned Beast, also called the False Prophet; a Dragon who is identified as Satan; a Woman clothed with the stars; two prophets who are called the two Witnesses; a Harlot who rides the first Beast; and a Rider on a White Horse. The Beasts in the author's time clearly represent the Roman empire, led by the emperor, and identified with the cryptic number 666. Based on the ancient Jewish code called gematria</>, in which words are given numbers based on the sum of the values of their letters, the reference is most likely to Neron Kasar</>, or Nero Caesar, spelled in Hebrew. The terror filled and turbulent years from Nero's reign (54-68 C.E.) through the reign of Domitian form the backdrop of the book of Revelation. Not only were Christians at Rome being killed, but the bloody Jewish revolt (66-73 C.E.) in Palestine fueled apocalyptic speculation. Indeed, Josephus, the contemporary Jewish historian, says that the primary inspiration for the revolt was based on speculations drawn from the apocalyptic book of Daniel, upon which Revelation is largely based (War</> 6.310-14). Clearly, the David Koresh situation in Waco, Texas was only the latest in a long sequence, stretching back over 2000 years, in which Jewish and Christian groups received inspiration and direction from such apocalyptic texts.

The book of Revelation presented problems for the Christian church from the earliest times. When the New Testament was canonized in the 3rd and 4th centuries C.E., there were disputes as to whether it should even be included in the list of inspired writings. It presents two major difficulties. First, since it is written in veiled and symbolic language, it lends itself to countless interpretations, often wild and uncontrolled by the normal tenets of biblical exegesis. Second, it contains unequivocal statements about the impending end of the age which were never literally fulfilled and thus demanded constantly revised interpretation. Ironically, these two problems fit hand in glove to allow the book inclusion in the canon, preservation, and even perpetual popularity. The imprecise symbolic language of the book actually made possible the process of ongoing revisions of interpretation and ingenious reapplications to the events of subsequent periods and situations. In other words, the book of Revelation became a timeless ``script'' of the end-time scenario, ever flexible and mobile through time and place. It has provided countless movements and groups with interpretations of their own situations and has fueled the hopes, dreams, and schemes of a perpetually revised apocalyptic agenda.

Once it was safely included in the canon of the New Testament, the Christian church provided three major types of interpretation. The one which has received the most official sanction has been the ``spiritual'' or allegorical method. According to this approach the book is not to be taken literally at all, and should never be applied to any precise historical setting. It was seen as a symbolic, timeless, allegory of the ongoing battle between good and evil, with the triumph of Christ assured at some unspecified period in the future. For example, the ``Beast'' power of Revelation 17 would be understood to refer to any and all secular governments throughout history which oppose the ways of God. In the past two hundred years, since the rise of biblical criticism, a second method, the historical, has been prevalent, particularly among the more scholarly inclined. This approach understands the book as thoroughly tied to the first century C.E., with all direct applicability restricted to that period. In other words, the book says nothing about any subsequent march of history and would be worthless at providing an end-time scenario. According to this view, the ``Beast'' power refers to the Roman empire in the time of Nero and Domitian, and to those specific times and events, but to no successive time.

However, with many groups and individuals who give the book a simple, straightforward reading, the futurist method has had great appeal. This approach understands the book as a sure guide and ``map'' of the last days of history. Its referents, though symbolic, are applied to the most concrete situations and events, inevitably in the life and world of the latest interpreter. In other words, the book of Revelation becomes a manual for an immediate end-time scenario. The power and appeal of this futurist view of the book has been extraordinary. The book has served as a catalyst for a specific apocalyptic dynamic. Developments in history, and in the life of the interpreters, are understood to be directly mentioned in the book. The interpreter looks constantly at the book, comparing it with the outside world, seeking to find a ``fit'' between symbol and event. More often than not interpreters have found themselves, or their movement, playing a key role as predicted in the book. It was obvious to Dr. Arnold and me that David Koresh was just such an interpreter. Through hours of conversations with Branch Davidian members who were outside the Mt. Carmel compound we slowly began to map out the apocalyptic scenario or ``script'' that David Koresh and his followers were expecting. We were absolutely convinced that David would never surrender from pressure or harassment. Given his understanding of himself as the messenger, or ``anointed one,'' who had been given the secret of the Seven Seals, he would only act as he felt God was leading him. And the text of the book of Revelation was his primary guide. According to his reading of the Seven Seals, five had now been fulfilled and God was telling him to wait. Given such a view, he simply would not come out and surrender as the FBI demanded. To Koresh and his followers such a move, before the proper time, would have been inconceivable. They would have seen it as disobedience to God. Slowly we formulated a plan to approach David Koresh with an alternative scenario, seeking to meet him within his own interpretive world.

Our first step was a radio broadcast over KGBS, the Dallas radio station which Koresh and his followers tuned to each morning on their battery operated transistor radios. It was April 1st, 33 days since the siege had begun. The talk show host, Ron Engelman, who had been critical of the federal authorities since the February 28th ATF raid, allowed us full use of air time to begin a dialogue with Koresh. Dick DeGuerin, Koresh's attorney who had been meeting with him for the past four days, was clued into our plan. He assured us that Koresh and his followers would be listening to our discussion. What we presented, in give and take dialogue form, was a rather technical discussion of an alternative interpretation of the book of Revelation, which we thought David Koresh might accept. As academics, we were not presenting this interpretation as our own personal view. Rather, our approach was hypothetical -- given Koresh's general world view, and the interpretation he was following of the Seven Seals, what about an alternative understanding? Three days later, on Sunday, April 4th, Dick DeGuerin also took a cassette tape we had made of our discussion of the book of Revelation into the Mt. Carmel compound so that David Koresh and his followers would have it to listen to and study. Passover was approaching, an eight day holiday which the Branch Davidians observed. Koresh had announced that following the Passover festival he would announce his plan for surrender.

On Wednesday, April 14th, just five days before the fire that consumed the compound, David Koresh released a letter through his lawyer. It was to be his last. He said that at long last his wait was over; that he had been instructed by God to write an exposition expounding the secrets of the Seven Seals of Revelation. He wrote:

I am presently being permitted to document in structured form the decoded messages of the Seven Seals. Upon the completion of this task, I will be freed of my waiting period. I hope to finish this as soon as possible and stand before man and answer any and all questions regarding my activities. . . I have been praying for so long for this opportunity to put the Seals in written form. I want the people of this generation to be saved. I am working night and day to complete my final work of writing out these seals. I thank my Father, He has finally granted me this chance to do this. It will bring new light and hope for many and they won't have to deal with me the person. . . As soon as I can see that people like Jim Tabor and Phil Arnold have a copy, I will come out and then you can do your thing with this beast.

Dr. Arnold and I were elated. We felt we had been successful at last. In our tapes to David Koresh we had argued this very point. We had tried to convince him that he was not necessarily ``in the 5th Seal'' of Revelation chapter six, which would mandate the death of the group. We also argued that the ``little season'' mentioned in Revelation 6:11 could be an extended period. It was logically correlated with the ``delay'' of Revelation 7:1-3, which we maintained, given such a literal interpretation, could last several years. Further, on the basis of chapter ten we had stressed the idea of a message written in a ``little book'' which would be given to the world (Revelation 10:11). We had pointed out to David Koresh that although he had appeared on the covers of

Time</>,

Newsweek</>, and

People</> magazines all in the same week, and was being mentioned hourly on CNN and daily on the network news reports, no one remotely had a clue as to his message. We told him that most people had the idea that he was an insane sex pervert who molested children and claimed to be Jesus Christ, or even God. He had apparently accepted our arguments. We, along with the attorneys, were absolutely convinced he would come out and that this writing of the Seven Seals, in his mind, was the answer from God he had been talking about for the past six weeks. This has to do with the dynamics of apocalypticism. It always operates through a complex play between the fixed text or ``script,'' the shifting circumstances of outside events, and the imaginative casting of the interpreter. We had not been trying to manipulate David, but we did honestly feel that given his literalist view of the text, there were other viable alternatives.

The FBI had a different reaction. Following Passover week they had stepped up their pressure tactics, demanding once for all that Koresh and his people surrender. They took this latest move on David's part as one more in a long series of delay tactics. In their daily press briefings over the next few days they belittled Koresh as a grade school drop-out who would hardly be capable of writing a book. They said he was a manipulating madman who thought he was God, who interpreted the Bible through the barrel of a gun. Nonetheless they did allow writing supplies to be delivered to the Mt. Carmel compound on Sunday evening, April 18th, the every evening before the tear gas assault. The authorities had clearly lost all patience. At 5:50 a.m., Monday morning they called the compound and informed the group that if they did not surrender the place would be gassed. What took place in the Mt. Carmel compound from that point on is uncertain. One survivor of the fire with whom I talked told me that the last time he saw David Koresh was about 5 a.m. that morning. David had come down from his room and looked very tired. He said he had been working most of the night on his manuscript on the Seven Seals.

When the FBI began their tear gas assault that Monday morning David must have been profoundly disappointed and confused. He had become convinced that God not only was going to graciously allow him to write this most important explanation of the Seven Seals for the world, but that this was part of the apocalyptic script. In a split second, as the buildings shook, the walls were punched with holes, and the tear gas was injected, he must have thought to himself, ``Well, I guess I was right all along. We are in the Fifth Seal after all, and we must die like the others.'' It is obvious that one does not write a manuscript if the walls of ones home are being broken down. The actions of the FBI forced David to revise his apocalyptic understanding. Any fulfillment of Revelation 10:11, which he had become convinced would now take place, became impossible. There was not a chance in the world that he or is followers would ``come out and surrender to proper authority'' as the FBI loudspeakers urged them that morning. To them the only proper authority was God, not the forces of the wicked Babylonians. In their minds, based on Revelation 6:11, they saw their deaths as a necessary martyrdom, a self sacrifice which would lead to the final collapse of the enemy and the coming of Jesus Christ.

There is a final bit of historical irony in the Waco tragedy. The defenders of Masada had also died at precisely the same time of year, a few days after Passover in the year 73 C.E., after a lengthy siege by the Roman military forces. Like David Koresh they were serious students of the prophecies of Daniel, the text upon which the book of Revelation is mainly based. Daniel 11:33 says that in the final battle the remnant of God's true people would die ``by sword and by flame.'' David knew about Masada. He also said he was familiar with the newly released Dead Sea scrolls and had been following the debates surrounding them. It is worth noting that one of the most disputed texts, by one possible translation, speaks of a ``Branch of David'' being wounded and killed by the authorities.

There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that David Koresh would have surrendered peacefully when he finished his manuscript. After the fire some federal agents said they doubted that he was even working on such a project. They took David's talk about being allowed by God to finally write the interpretation of the Seven Seals as a ploy to further delay things. We now know this was not the case. Ruth Riddle, one of the survivors of the fire, had a computer disk in the right pocket of her jacket. She had been typing David's handwritten manuscript the day before the fire. On that disk was his exposition of the first Seal. The disk is in the possession of the federal authorities.

PostScript: The disk was later turned over to lawyers for Ruth Riddle and subsequently given to Professors Tabor and Arnold. They released it to be public and the academy in November, 1994. It has now been made available through the Gopher at ccat.sas.upenn.edu (University of Pennsylvania).

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Rethinking Waco: The Perspective of the Academic Study of Religion

by James D. Tabor Associate Professor Department of Religious Studies University of North Carolina at Charlotte

Originally delivered before the Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Religion in Washington, D.C., November 22, 1993.

Copyright March 1994 by James D. Tabor. Permission is granted for non-commercial replication of or excerpting from this material, provided that appropriate notice is included of its copyright status, as above.

===== The Koresh Package includes the following electronic files from James Tabor (jdtabor@unccvm.uncc.edu): David Koresh's Unfinished Manuscript on the Seven Seals, edited by James Tabor and Phillip Arnold Events at Waco: an Interpretive Log Rethinking Waco: the Perspective of the Academic Study of Religion The Role of Biblical Scholarship at Waco: One Attempt to Avert Disaster =====

RETHINKING WACO: THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE ACADEMIC STUDY OF RELIGION

If any of you were able to attend or watch the Justice Department's October 8th summary, mainly given by former Assistant Attorney General Edward Dennis on the Waco incident, and attended by Janet Reno toward the end, you would know that they were asked repeatedly, "Aren't you afraid of a whitewash? What about a whitewash?" At one point the Attorney General stated rather blatantly and dramatically: "We want the truth to come out."

The reason I agreed to come up here today is because I want the truth to come out. I feel somewhat emotional and personal about Waco. I'm past saying that I'm merely sad. Indeed I have moved to more of a feeling of anger after reading the Justice Department report and watching the presentation made on October 8th. Toward the end I will tell you more about just why I feel such personal emotion. Some of the sharpest criticism in the report comes from the two scholars on the outside panel who know the most about the religious studies, Professor Nancy Ammerman of Emory University and Professor Larry Sullivan of Harvard. Yet their incisive critique hasn't been covered by the media yet, and no mention of their findings was made by Edward Dennis, who claimed that no serious errors in judgment were made. Please read their documents for yourself. They are devastating, even blistering. And that's why we're here. Our focus is on the question, was there another way? Yes, there was another way, and if fact, it was being pursued.

Edward Dennis presented what he called a coherent negotiation strategy followed during the 51 day siege. It had three steps: (A) Convince the group that they were not in an apocalyptic situation as they thought; (B) Assure legal protection so that the possibility of coming out could be implemented. That involved the strategy of letting the lawyers Dick DeGuerin and Jack Zimmerman go in over a period of time during late March and April. And (C) Continue pressure techniques intended to divide the group and sever loyalty to David Koresh, breaking down the morale of those inside. Obviously, A and B work well together, while C is counterproductive. Also, A and B were working, but finally ignored, while C was followed and led to disaster.

On the whole, according to Dennis, the Waco situation was defined as a CHBRS: that is, a Complex-Hostage-Barricade-Rescue situation. It's not quite an acronym the way I said it, but you can play around with that.

Well, I'm sorry but it wasn't that. The Branch Davidians were a devout religious community founded over 50 years ago. They were a church. They took holy communion twice a day, morning and evening; they spent much of their time studying the Bible. It is true that they held alternative, and I would say, for most of us, rather bizarre religious convictions. But they were capable of articulately defending these Biblical views with a fair degree of sophistication, based upon their world view.

Now former Assistant Attorney General Edward Dennis said on October 8th that any speculation regarding the group coming out was irresponsible. I thought that was an amazing statement. That is, we shouldn't even speculate -- that it would be irresponsible. This implies we should not even evaluate</> what might have been the case, had other courses been followed -- since this would be irresponsible! Well, that is precisely what I plan to do, and I consider it absolutely responsible to do so. But actually what I have to say is not mere idle speculation. People have asked me: "Why worry about what might have been? Maybe we could learn some lessons, but it's over. These Waco people were a very strange. They should have come out. They were stubborn. Now they're dead. It's over. Maybe we should just forget it."

We also heard Edward Dennis say on October 8th, "How could seemingly intelligent people pursue a course of insanity, mass murder and suicide?" That's what he said. President Clinton, on the very day of the fire, said "The U.S. government is not to blame. If a bunch of religious fanatics decide to kill themselves, what can we do?" Then when he was further questioned he said, "Well, there was child abuse. We all know that he had sex with minors, don't we?" And all the reporters were looking at each other: Do we know that? I don't know that? Do you know that? We've heard a lot of reports about that. Were there legal charges? What kind of country are we living in? We all know that he had sex with minors?

Let me give you a chronology, I guess you could call it what might have been. What makes me angry is that David Koresh was coming out. We were a few days, up to a week or so, from getting him out. I'm absolutely persuaded. This is not mere speculation. There was not a coherent negotiation strategy because there was pressure and other kinds of things going on. But what the lawyers were doing day by day, and they spent more time with the group after the siege than anybody else; and what Dr. Phillip Arnold and I were doing, day by day, in concert with the lawyers from the religious side of things, was absolutely working. Listen to this chronology which you likely haven't heard:

On March 4, Jeffrey Jamar who was the FBI agent in charge, was asked, "When are they coming out?" The answer, "David's stance is that he's been told to wait." Told by whom we must ask? Whom does David listen to? Does he listen to the loud speakers? Does he listen to recordings of rabbits being slaughtered? "He's been told to wait." David operated in a religious framework. Jamar continued, "When he gets the message to stop waiting, then we'll proceed from there. He's still saying that he's going to come out." He also said the FBI had as much time as was needed and would not provoke any violent action.

Now that's what we heard on March 4th. What did we hear after that? Anything different? The lawyers went in day after day and what did they report over and over again? "We've solved all the legal problems. He's coming out after Passover." Now, how long is Passover? The FBI apparently thought it lasted one day. Even Jeffrey Jamar said on ABC's Nightline, the day of the fire, that David kept changing the date of Passover each day. Obviously, he's not Jewish. The Passover celebration lasts for eight days. David and his group began their Passover celebration on Tuesday or Wednesday night, April 6th or 7th. It was over a week later, on Tuesday or Wednesday April 13th or 14th. Jews around the world were observing the same eight day cycle. On Friday, April 2nd, the weekend before Passover, the lawyers came out after what was supposed to be their last visit. They were smiling. They held a press conference: "It's all solved. He's coming out and after Passover we'll get the word." They stressed that David had to receive a clear sense from God of just how to implement his desire to come out.

But on Sunday, April 4th, the suddenly lawyers went back in again. Why? The media reported that they had some important religious information that they said they were carrying -- that was the last time they saw David Koresh. I emphasize again, this was April 4th, the Sunday before Passover. What they took in was recorded material Dr. Arnold and I had given them in response to David's Biblical and apocalyptic interpretations of the Book of Revelation. Our efforts were working beautifully, just as we had hoped. The FBI knew all about it these efforts. You can read Nancy Ammerman's report, she covers this. I don't think they bothered to listen to our final tape and really try to follow precisely what</> we were saying, what our strategy was, because they said in their logs about that time that "We're tired of Bible babble. We want to get on with it -- get on with getting them out." The problem, of course, is that this so-called "Bible babble," was actually quite coherent and meaningful, and it was the only</> way to communicate with David.

Anyway, what happened on April 14th, the day after Passover, just four days before the fire? Think about this. Four days, it's on a Wednesday, April 14th. Prompt as clockwork the day after Passover, David sends out a letter, which turned out to be his final formal communication to the outside world. He says -- and remember, he's been waiting for the word from God that he says he has to have in order to come out -- "I've got the word. Here it is." A two page letter, he released it to the world. What does it say? "I am free of my waiting period. I'm coming out. I am presently being permitted to document in structured form the decoded message of the Seven Seals." Notice the language carefully. Anyone who knows anything about religion and the dynamics of the charismatic religious leader would understand that this language was to be taken very seriously. He says, "I am being permitted</>." We can speculate that David was a criminal, a mere con man, cloaking his evil motives under a religious garb, as the FBI repeatedly said. But I am personally of the opinion that David Koresh was absolutely sincere in his beliefs. Indeed, that is what made the situation so explosive. I know the Branch Davidian people were absolutely sincere. Dr. Arnold and I have spent many hours interviewing them, both before and since the fire. These are convicted religious people who find their views in the Bible. David goes on to say, "I've been praying so long for this opportunity. As soon as I've been given over to the hands of men (notice this language, it's actually rather subtle and brilliant) I know that I will be made a spectacle of, and people will be concerned, not about my message, the truth of God, but the bizarreness of me in the flesh." He knew that. He knew everyone would want to know about the stories of sex with minors, and all the other bizarre things that had been reported about him and the group. But he said that what's important is the message of the Seven Seals -- to get this out. His word from God was that he would be permitted to write</> the message out. We all heard about this new turn of events. The lawyers, along with Dr. Arnold and I, were elated. The FBI reacted by merely making fun of David.

Listen to this -- the letter continues. Here are the last lines, the last public words of David Koresh: "As soon as I can see that people like Jim Tabor and Phil Arnold have a copy of the manuscript, I will come out and you can do your thing with this beast." [I can explain what this language about the "beast" means later if you want to get into the theology.] Koresh was obviously responding positively and consistently to the materials we had presented, which all dealt with him coming out, but used Biblical interpretations and language -- what the FBI called "Bible babble." Also notice, this very letter makes it clear that he didn't think he was God. He says he thanks his heavenly Father for this opportunity, this permission, to write the message of the Seven Seals. You see, in the book of Revelation the seer is told not to write the secrets of the book. For David, this was a very great event -- it could now be written. Did the FBI seriously analyze the letter? If so, how could Edward Dennis end the Justice Department press conference on October 8th by saying, "In the final analysis there is simply little one can do with someone who thinks he is God." Koresh didn't think he was God. What does he mean when he says, "I thank my heavenly Father." Who was that? Koresh didn't even think he was Jesus Christ. He thought he was a Christ, that is, an anointed one, based on Isaiah 45:1-3 and Psalm 40 and 45 -- look it up. These are not references to Jesus Christ. Further, if he thought he was Jesus why would the Branch Davidians take communion twice a day to remember the heavenly work of Christ? These statements alone make it clear that people at the highest Federal levels still do not understand these people as a religious community, nor do they comprehend their most basic beliefs. And this is after the so- called, "thorough" investigation. This final letter from Koresh is coherent and consistent, and it fits perfectly with what FBI agent Jeff Jamar had said weeks before -- David will not come out until he gets his word from God.

So, on April 14th, just four days before the fire, David says, "I've got the word, I'm coming out." The lawyers said just before Passover that all the legal obstacles to their coming out were solved. David was to report his "word from God" after Passover. The day after Passover he releases this letter saying he is coming out. So, what happened? This was on Wednesday. David says, "I'm working on a manuscript." The FBI only made fun of him: "We don't know how long it will take a high school dropout to write a book." They took this as merely one more delay tactic, which shows they had not carefully followed our efforts, nor had they ever taken David's main claim seriously -- his ability to expound the meaning of the Seven Seals. Over the next day or two they said they had evidence he was not even working on the manuscript.

Well we now know David, true to his word, did go to work on his manuscript that very weekend. It was highly important to him, the most important thing he had ever tried to do. A copy of his work survived the fire on a computer disk carried out by his typist, Ruth Riddle. We released it to

Newsweek</> and other media last week. It's quite a substantial piece of work. It would run about 26 pages double spaced. The content is rather intriguing and it explains a lot about David's beliefs and even his attitude toward the Waco standoff situation. It is coherent, logical, and quite moving to read. It's what David lived, breathed, and died for. What did he mainly claim? He said he had been given the secret, the message of the Seven Seals. David completed his work on the first seal that Sunday night. We've reconstructed the chronology. He worked until around 9:00 pm. Let me read to you the last few lines of the surviving manuscript. Keep in mind that this was written the night before the fire. He first quotes the Scripture. Remember, to David, these texts of Scripture were everything. He felt he had to follow them. He quotes Joel 2, verse 15. "Assemble the congregation. Gather the children. Let the bride come out of her closet." That's his quote. What does it mean to him? It's a message that it's time to come out. And then he offers his commentary: "Should we not eagerly ourselves be ready to accept his truth?" What truth? The truth that he was now seeing in the Scriptures, namely, that they are to "Come out of our closet and be revealed to the world as those who loved Christ in truth and righteousness."

His point is obvious. It was as if he were saying, "We've been made fun of; we've been maligned. I've been called a child molester and a sex pervert -- everything in the book. It is time to come out and let the world hear our true message and know we are faithful servants of Christ." He was coming out. But he wasn't coming out without a message -- to be strapped and chained, pushed and cajoled and made fun of. He was coming out. What he was saying was this: "Do what you want with me, but read what I have to say."

He was coming out. So what were the last words of David Koresh? Sunday night, around 9:00 pm: "Let's come out of our closet and face the world." We have interviewed the typist who typed this for Phil. She reports that David was pleased with his progress on the First Seal that evening, and planned to continue work through the next week. The group was pleased with him, there was a joyful spirit of hope among them. They had finally gotten their word from God, and things were moving along nicely with David's writing. They knew that if he finished the First Seal in one day, on that Sunday, and the First Seal was was the longest one, then they might be out in a week to ten days.

So that's the truth folks. The attack on April 19th was totally unnecessary, ill-timed, and ignored the most important thing of all -- David's absolute insistence for 51 days that he had to follow the instructions of God. What happened April 19th? David's world view hadn't changed. He felt that God was allowing him to write this manuscript and that he was supposed to then come out and face trial as Jesus had, and as others had, which is one of the points we had presented to him on our tapes. We had pleaded that he come out and face trial so that the truth could come out. The apostle Paul went to prison. Others went to prison. David was ready to do just that, as he plainly said a few days before. The important thing for him now was to get the message out. Writing the manuscript was not a delay tactic, it is what he had to do before they exited, so the message would be clear, no matter what happened to them as individuals. And that's exactly what he was doing. He was following a scenario, a script that he believed that God had laid out for him.

But when the attack came that morning -- all hope of writing the message ceased. Who can write manuscript with tanks crashing into the walls of ones home? The dynamics of biblical apocalypticism are that you read the text, the Script. You then try to figure out exactly what is going to happen. He had become convinced that he was to come out and go on trial and vindicate the group in the eyes of the world with this manuscript. He saw this in Joel 2 and other texts. That was his scenario. He was bound</> to follow it. That's why it is not idle or irresponsible speculation to say David was coming out. In fact it is the most responsible reading of the situation, once one takes seriously David's religious worldview, as all the religious studies experts have faulted the FBI as failing to do.

Monday morning when they began crashing into that place with all the horror that we're still hearing it was obviously impossible that the book be written. [Just this past Monday there were some new reports over the AP wire that the children were crushed by falling debris caused by the tanks crashing into the structure -- even before the fire started in the bunker area. This raises the possibility that some of the children were killed directly by the government actions.] So, what must have been going through David's mind at that point? He was forced to conclude, because of this violent initiative by the government, that they were in the Fifth Seal after all. This is the place in the Bible that Dr. Arnold and I tried to convince David did not have to be fulfilled at this time, in Waco. It says that the rest of the group will die. Since he he was writing the manuscript, he had given up the notion that the Fifth Seal had to come to pass at this point. Now, through the government action, it was the only possibility once again. This Fifth Seal speaks of a number of God's servants being killed, then waiting a "little season," followed by the rest of the group dying.

The events, the external attacks said to him, "I guess God is not going to permit me to write the manuscript and come out after all."

I'm sorry I'm rather emotional about this, as is obvious from my voice. I'll tell you why. I came to love these people. You talk to someone like Catherine Mattison, 77 years old, living in the Brittany Hotel down in Waco. She is one of the Branch Davidian survivors. She said, "I've been a member of this group for 35 years." She reminds one of a typical devout "grandmother" figure. She has a large black Bible with every page underlined and marked. I am sure she could hold her own in Biblical discussions with anybody. She has her views and she can defend them. Think of it, thirty five years in this group, before even David Koresh was born. She says, "If David had done all of those nasty things, do you think I would have stood for this. I would have told him off and left the group long ago." And she talks about her affection for him. She said he was the most mature and selfless man she had ever known. I came to love those people. They were dear, sweet souls, a very good people, "heart of the earth," types, much like the type of Bible-believing people I grew up with in the South.

If they were guilty of criminal activity, then fine, let's follow legal procedures and have a trial. If they were guilty of any crimes, let's follow a course of law. But if you go in the way the Federal government did, both on February 28th, April 19th, and for 50 days inbetween, the results are going to be absolutely horrible. It was a massacre.

How did the fire start? I don't know. But I do know that David was coming out. Surely no one can say that as he worked busily on his manuscript on Sunday night, the evening before the fire, that he actually was planning to burn the place down the next day and kill everyone. This is absurd. The actions of the government directly led to the disaster. That is a fact.

There was a serious lack of communication. Somehow over the weekend, in Washington, it was decided to go ahead. Attorney General Reno now admits that she was not given factual information about the so-called child abuse, yet she said the day of the fire that this was the main reason they could not wait. We also learn that she backed off at one point, said they would not go in, then changed her mind. There is no evidence that she was even told what I have presented today. Did the FBI stress to her that the lawyers, who spent the most time with the group in face to face dialogue, and had really gotten to know David, had concluded that everything was set for David to come out? Was she told that the two biblical scholars who had communicated with David had gotten a highly positive response which also supported the idea that he was coming out? And most important, was she told that even as they were conferring, David Koresh was hard at work on his promised manuscript? Was she shown the letter David wrote on April 14th? If not, why not? Who is at fault here?

Let me end with this quote: "There's no place for blame," said former Assistant Attorney General Dennis. "There were no gross errors in judgment. We used patience, restraint and understanding." Surely not informing the Attorney General of these matters, and staying the course for another week to or two, when events were so positively unfolding, was a serious and gross error in judgment. Is that a whitewash or what? It really angers me. Those people are dead now, and they didn't need to die.

//end//


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: branchdavidian; waco
On April 19, 1994 I attended the one year reunion of survivors of the Branch Davidian at the Mount Carmel land near Waco Texas. One of the speakers was Dr. James D. Tabor a Religious Studies Professor, who had been brought in by the FBI to talk with David Koresh. I was simply a local Texan and history buff who had attended to try and find out why this happend. I introduced myself to Dr. Tabor and he later emailed me the original text of the 7 seals written by David Koresh and brought out by one of the Branch Davidian Women just before the fire. As the 10 year mark of the April 19, 1993 attack grows near its time to remember what happened. regards, Paul Watson
1 posted on 02/16/2003 10:11:18 AM PST by pwatson
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To: pwatson
Hmm, interesting read. I'm open to reading all viewpoints on this terrible American tragedy. Law enforcement has their side also.

Janet Reno's finest hour (/sarcasm).

2 posted on 02/16/2003 10:32:00 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: pwatson
Thank you for posting this. It's a long read but excellent. And shows the Godless mindset of our FedGov masters.
3 posted on 02/16/2003 10:41:47 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: pwatson
There used to be a website by Tabor. I think it was called Remembering Waco. I lost the bookmark in a hard disk crash. Do you know if if his site is still up and what the URL for it is?

4 posted on 02/16/2003 11:16:13 AM PST by pjd
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To: pjd
Found it. The site is called Why Waco and is at
http://home.maine.rr.com/waco/ww.html
for those of you interested.

5 posted on 02/16/2003 11:21:12 AM PST by pjd
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To: pwatson; Catspaw
Yeah, I remember what happened. A bunch of imbecilic whackjobs murdered some cops, then got burned up after a lengthy standoff when they should have come out.

From all accounts, there were operational errors in the final assault, but the fact that it was undertaken was not incorrect.

Koresh is burning in the hell justly reserved for cult leaders.

6 posted on 02/16/2003 11:27:30 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Oh, geez--Koresh as Messiah.

I hope the good professor doesn't have tenure.

7 posted on 02/16/2003 11:35:18 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: wimpycat; Poohbah; Cultural Jihad
Koresh has hit Messiah status.

Enjoy.

8 posted on 02/16/2003 11:37:43 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Well, I disagree with the way this was handled by the FBI, ATF, et al, but spending more than five minutes trying to "understand" David Koresh is the equivalent of discerning the babblings of a schizophrenic.
9 posted on 02/16/2003 11:39:44 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
So how many Koresh Disciples do we have here at FR? Who the hell gives a damn what Koresh had to say about the Seven Seals?
10 posted on 02/16/2003 11:41:45 AM PST by wimpycat ("Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines!")
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To: wimpycat; sinkspur
So how many Koresh Disciples do we have here at FR?

Interesting question, isn't it? Considering the number of times we see "Waco" invoked, even now, I'd say that there may be a couple of sympathizers together with a lot of folks who should know better.

To me, its a symbol of government incompetence and obfuscation after the fact, but not a symbol of some nebulous evil. To them, its about repression, and the supposed "right" to have standoffs.

It is a large difference, and a critical one.

11 posted on 02/16/2003 12:01:42 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Catspaw
Wouldn't you be pleased with the thought of Jim Jones, the Raelians, or those "Applegatians" (or whatever the hell they called themselves) influencing the thoughts of people who were giving your family members theological training?

Of folks who are reading it for signs of validity?

12 posted on 02/16/2003 12:13:09 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"David Koresh is burning in hell."

And Janet Reno will be burning right beside him...along with her boss and various and assorted other Clinton Demoncrats.

13 posted on 02/16/2003 12:20:52 PM PST by holyscroller (Why are Liberal female media types always ugly to boot?)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
The Raelians? All I thought of when that French doc came out to announce that they'd cloned a baby was, "Don't tell us you cloned yourself." The thought was too scary.

But Koresh as the Messiah? And a professor spewing this nonsense? Puhleeze.

14 posted on 02/16/2003 12:21:40 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Actually, some imbecilic cops started shooting up a commune without ever attempting a peaceful arrest. All they had to do was arrest Koresh at the grocery store but they decided a shootout was much cooler.
15 posted on 02/16/2003 12:27:05 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Wouldn't you be pleased with the thought of Jim Jones, the Raelians, or those "Applegatians" (or whatever the hell they called themselves) influencing the thoughts of people who were giving your family members theological training?

Or worse yet, humanists or libertarians.

16 posted on 02/16/2003 12:29:11 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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