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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Well, the "roots of morality" contained in the Bible are the same for Islam as for Christianity.

And that hasn't stopped either religion--or nations that purport to follow them--from committing heinous bloodshed.

It's a "beam and mote" thing.

60 posted on 02/16/2003 6:17:56 AM PST by Illbay (If the hunger for liberty destroys order, the hunger for order will destroy liberty. - Will Durant)
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To: Illbay
While I agree Christian nations have murdered many, I do want to say that is really in the past, and has been for quite a long time. Muslims are conducting that kind of behavior NOW, which is the problem. Maybe a better thing for the country would not be to bring it back to the "roots" of a religion, but the roots of common sense. Common sense seems to be what this nation is missing the most.

Besides that, this tale doesn't surprise me, and it won't be the last one. I'll guarantee you that. Muslims are Muslims first and also Muslims last. The American ones are alright until you ask them to do something they perceive to be "against" Islam, such as going to war against other Muslims. They won't do it. I bet hardly any of the Muslim military personnel will wind up going. And the ones that do are going to be reviled as "false" Muslims, apostates. That is punishable by death in Islam, and murder for apostasy happens quite frequently in the Middle East.

In short, we all have to realize that no matter how nice your Muslim neighbor is, you simply can't trust 'em. I feel sorry for our men and women in Iraq that have to have these snakes guard their backs.
66 posted on 02/16/2003 6:51:09 AM PST by Morrigan
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To: Illbay
The "roots of morality" are not the same in the Bible (Scipture) as understood by 'Christianity' and Islam.

Islam came about some 6 centuries after Christianity and discerns itself from Christianity by the very essence of Chritianity which distinguishes it from 'religion'. Scripture reads to the relationship with God based upon His terms, not upon man's terms.

Islam has rejected this course and instead chooses a direct path to God independent of God's will. All morality resultant from that ethic reduces to a man-created morality rather than Divine Will.

We might also compare bloodshed committed by a policeman stopping a crime to that of an unfound mass murderer. Simply observing the material byproduct of each position in limited perspective could yield the conclusion that both acted with results of heinous bloodshed. The resultant consequences of the latter imply an unabated continued unjust tirade of criminal violence, while the former limits the violence to finite consequence and a stable society.

Comparing bloodshed by nations devoted to Christianity or to Islam is similar in that Christianity recognizes the value of life in all man and entails defense, possibly an aggressive offense if less costly, to ensure al mankind doesn't kill off one another. Islam on the contrary, will insist that only Muslims will be allowed to live on this planet when taken to its rational conclusion. Considering it refuses to acknowledge God's will on His terms, Islam is a religion of unstable failure.
67 posted on 02/16/2003 6:56:29 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Illbay
I'm not a religous person.. Just FYI.

"Well, the "roots of morality" contained in the Bible are the same for Islam as for Christianity."

Lies lies lies lies.. That kind of moral equivalency wouldn't pass the test on du.com, much less here.
89 posted on 02/16/2003 1:31:35 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Illbay
It's a "beam and mote" thing.

In that case, Please get your beam outta my mote. I am not that kind of guy . . .

120 posted on 02/17/2003 11:16:18 AM PST by Mr_Magoo (Single, Available, and Easy)
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