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To: MadIvan
Vatican papers offering the first direct evidence that Pope Pius XII tried to help Jews during the Second World War have been discovered by an Italian expert.

More likely, have just been forged...

22 posted on 02/15/2003 7:43:38 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
My, aren't we cynical, though.

Not much need for forgery in this case. The competent historians without an axe to grind are in agreement on the heroic conduct of Pius XII. The liberal propagandists who specialize in regurgitating each other's lies, on the other hand, will never be convinced.

Don't think I know what I'm talking about? Read this.

24 posted on 02/15/2003 7:57:07 PM PST by Campion
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You, also, are mistaken, and misled by slander.

The best thing that could happen to a Jewish family under the Nazi occupation of Europe was to happen to be in Italy.
The worst (after Germany and Poland) was to be in Vichy France.

Check the numbers.

No coincidence here. The church was a strong (quiet) force.
29 posted on 02/15/2003 8:13:52 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: pabianice
Vatican papers offering the first direct evidence that Pope Pius XII tried to help Jews during the Second World War have been discovered by an Italian expert.

More likely, have just been forged...

Funny, they're supported by historical fact and the testimony of others.

When reading your post, all I could think was "Look Ma! No brains!"

90 posted on 02/16/2003 7:35:52 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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