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American Stars Slam Bush Over Iraq at Berlin Fest (Barf alert)
Reuters ^ | Februari 12 2003 | Erik Kirschbaum and Fiona Shaikh

Posted on 02/12/2003 4:10:58 PM PST by knighthawk

BERLIN (Reuters) - New York film director Spike Lee led a chorus of criticism against President Bush at the Berlin Film Festival Wednesday, telling the president he had no moral authority to launch a war against Iraq.

Going out of his way to praise the French and German governments for their outspoken resistance to the U.S. government's war moves, Lee said it was an outrage that Bush was ignoring world opinion in his rush to attack Iraq.

"When you think about it, the German and French governments should be commended," Lee said at a news conference after his film "25th Hour," about New York after the Sept. 11 attacks, made its international premiere.

"Too many people are being bowled over by Bush and Tony Blair in Britain. It's ludicrous to expect the whole world to follow what they want. America doesn't have the moral right to tell other people what to do. To say the whole world has to fall into line is you-know-what. I hope more people will rise up."

Lee, famed for his thought-provoking films about New York City, was joined by the cast of "25th Hour" in denouncing Bush. The anti-war comments drew thunderous applause from many of the 300 journalists and followed similar remarks from other U.S. celebrities in Berlin for the annual film festival.

Dustin Hoffman and Martin Scorsese added their voices to a peace movement sweeping Europe, telling audiences in Germany violence would not solve the world's problems and that they wanted to speak out against Bush, without criticizing America.

"I hope the world community will continue to voice itself and apply pressure on the U.S. government," said Edward Norton, who stars in Lee's film. "American citizens have to do it too. It's dismaying to see the unilateralism that the government is doing. They're aren't enough rational steps."

"It's nice being in Europe this week," he added. "Almost everyone in Germany and France is in sync with the governments. I almost forgot what it's like to be proud of my government."

Actress Rosario Dawson added she was frightened by the patriotic mood sweeping the United States.

"Any dissenting opinion is considered unpatriotic," she said. "It makes me upset. I'm embarrassed. It's my hope that Americans won't jump on anyone having a dissenting opinion."

Canadian actor Barry Pepper, who also features in Lee's film, added: "We're going to send our boys and girls overseas to kill -- and that's pretty sad." Hoffman also had some sharp words for Bush at a black-tie Berlinale charity dinner late Tuesday.

"I'm not anti-American but I am against the current administration's policy," Hoffman said to cheers. He said politicians were manipulating public opinion through the media.

"If there is no direct threat why are we invading?" he said.

Scorsese, a director famed for violent gangster films such as "Goodfellas" and whose latest "Gangs of New York" is competing in Berlin for a "Golden Bear" award, hoped war could be averted.

"It seems to me that any sensible person must see that violence does not change the world and if it does, then only temporarily," he said. "There must be people who remember World War II and the Holocaust who can help us get out of this rut."

A long list of Hollywood stars, including Martin Sheen, Sean Penn and Robert Redford, have spoken out against a new Gulf War. More than 100 celebrities have signed an open letter urging Bush to give peace a chance.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: berlin; bush; dustinhoffman; edwardnorton; filmfestival; germany; iraq; martinscorsese; sitdownandshutup; spikelee; traitors
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"It's nice being in Europe this week," he added. "Almost everyone in Germany and France is in sync with the governments. I almost forgot what it's like to be proud of my government."

This guy is crazy. Just ask Germans about Schroeder. Maybe this guy didn't see the latests election results! And also it seems Germans are very pessimistic about the future. Yeah, the Germans got a lot to be proud of thanks to their government.

1 posted on 02/12/2003 4:10:58 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; keri; Turk2; ...
Europe-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 02/12/2003 4:12:33 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: All; GretchenEE
Someone should really EDUCATE the Hollywood Hoodlums..

WHO has joined the ALLIES FOR LIBERTY & FREEDOM?

THESE ARE the 25 ALLIES for IRAQI people’s (women & children included) FREEDOM

U.S., Britian, Australia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Italy, Portugal, Turkey, Lithuania

Slovakia, Denmark, Czech Republic, Spain, Quatar, Jordan, Albania, Kuwait, Israel, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia, Macedonia, Croatia, and Japan

FREE the IRAQI people!!!

What OTHER countries want the IRAQI citizens FREEDOM?
goodnesswins, with technical assistance from abner

3 posted on 02/12/2003 4:13:40 PM PST by goodnesswins (Thank the Military for your freedom and security....and thank a Rich person for jobs.)
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To: knighthawk
This guy is crazy. Just ask Germans about Schroeder.

The guy is just another air-head from HollyWeird out-of-touch with reality.

4 posted on 02/12/2003 4:19:57 PM PST by demlosers
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To: knighthawk
Dear Hollywood:

Is an anti-abortion activist, who kills an abortion doctor, considered a terrorist? After all, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Also, shouldn't the pro-abortion people be asking what they have done to make him hate them so much? I'll be expecting you all to come out in favor of the government stopping its efforts to try and find those who bomb abortion clinics and kill abortionists.

5 posted on 02/12/2003 4:20:33 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: demlosers
70% of Hollywood's profits come from overseas. That's why these yahoos always wait until they are out of the US to make their boneheaded statements.
6 posted on 02/12/2003 4:22:09 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: knighthawk
American stars??...and not a backbone among them. They make me sick.
7 posted on 02/12/2003 4:22:42 PM PST by caisson71
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To: knighthawk
When is Spike Lee gonna move out of the US?

Maybe he can get a good deal on apartments when he brings along Alec Baldwin and Cher too.

8 posted on 02/12/2003 4:23:13 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: goodnesswins
Off topic.

But, all of a sudden, the pictures in the thread are not loading. Just a little red box.

Never seen that before. Can anyone help? IE6. something. Win98 and a dsl connection.

Thanks

9 posted on 02/12/2003 4:25:49 PM PST by don-o
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To: knighthawk
"It's nice being in Europe this week," (Spike Lee) added. "Almost everyone in Germany and France is in sync with the governments. I almost forgot what it's like to be proud of my government."

Then keep your ass over there and become the black Jerry Lewis. We won't miss you. Do The Right Thing, Spike. Maybe, heck, get ya some front-row seats on the soccer pitch instead of at Madison Square Garden?

}:-)4

10 posted on 02/12/2003 4:26:34 PM PST by Moose4 (The game is over.)
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To: Moose4
It's nice being in Europe this week," (Spike Lee) added. "Almost everyone in Germany and France is in sync with the governments. I almost forgot what it's like to be proud of my government."

I guess he doesn't like "dissent."

11 posted on 02/12/2003 4:27:54 PM PST by Shermy
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To: don-o
Click on tools
Click on "Internet Options"
Click on "Advanced" check annd see if "pictures" is checked in the Multimedia section.
12 posted on 02/12/2003 4:29:08 PM PST by demlosers
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To: knighthawk
"It seems to me that any sensible person must see that violence does not change the world and if it does, then only temporarily," he said.

This will be huge news to the Poles, Chezks, etc.

"There must be people who remember World War II and the Holocaust who can help us get out of this rut."

WWII ended the Holocaust.

This abject moron should stick to movies.

13 posted on 02/12/2003 4:31:51 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: knighthawk
A bunch of chickens. Why dont you cowards say it to our faces here at home? Oh, you hollywood nitwits wait until you are 3000 miles away. Stay there you assh***s. Sorry everybody, I am just so sick of this crap.
14 posted on 02/12/2003 4:33:01 PM PST by Beeline40@aol.com
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To: goodnesswins
Thanks Goodness for the list and flags.

Come on Canada!
15 posted on 02/12/2003 4:41:50 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (LIBERATE IRAQ, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!)
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To: demlosers
Click on "Advanced" check annd see if "pictures" is checked in the Multimedia section.

Yes, it is.

Do I have a problem with file associations? Yesterday, I got an e-mail from a company from which I am maybe buying bumper stickers. They included a jpeg in the e-mail.

When I tried to fw the e-mail, I got an "unable" msg in my Eudora.

Thanks. And any more advice is appreciated.

16 posted on 02/12/2003 4:48:15 PM PST by don-o (I feel good about picking freepers brains, because I help pay the bills.)
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To: knighthawk
We were at Home Depot this afternoon and ran across a group of women, talking about all this...one of them, heavily accented, told me she's German. And, is THOROUGHLY disgusted with Schroeder, Germany and their trying to stop this war.

She stressed that she doesn't WANT war, no one does, but sometimes it's necessary.

Again, she said, she was disgusted.

17 posted on 02/12/2003 4:53:23 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: knighthawk
Who listens to these stupid AHs?
18 posted on 02/12/2003 5:03:16 PM PST by RAY (de,pce)
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To: RAY
Who listens to these stupid AHs?

Drooling fans. For every boneheaded thing a member of the Hollywood Elite says, there are a thousand drooling fanboys who think that fame and success equals political savvy and therefore you should just take your criticism and STFU.

19 posted on 02/12/2003 5:17:23 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: facedown
"There must be people who remember World War II and the Holocaust who can help us get out of this rut."

Being that there are so many viable candidates, it's hard to choose a winner for the ignoramus award, but I think Scorsese has to get top honors this time.

20 posted on 02/12/2003 10:52:17 PM PST by beaversmom
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