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To: honway
"No children of ATF or FBI Agents were in the daycare center in the Murrah Building that morning."

O.K., that's what I recalled . . no agents or their children.

Now how did they explain that?

39 posted on 02/11/2003 9:37:24 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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Ping

Please forward to the relevant OKC crowd.
40 posted on 02/12/2003 2:57:03 AM PST by OutSpot
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To: Happy2BMe
>>Now how did they explain that? <<<
This is representative of how they tried, but it get's worse.




http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23011

If Lester Martz had stopped there, the matter might have subsided. But he overreached, the instinctive reflex of an agency accustomed to operating without accountability. "We were there, and we were heroes," he said. The ATF claimed that Alex McCauley, the resident agent in charge, was in an elevator when the bomb went off. He survived a free fall from the eighth to the third floor. McCauley escaped by breaking through the thick metal doors, and went on to rescue survivors in the stairwell.

If the ATF thought they could get away with this farrago, they had underestimated the 23-year-old redhead and her affable stepfather. Curiosity piqued, the Wilburns tried their hand as amateur sleuths. With the help of a freelance reporter, John "J. D." Cash, Glenn contacted the Midwestern Elevator Company, the firm that had actually searched the elevators for survivors.

"The first thing we did was split up and check, then double check, each elevator of occupants," explained Duane James, one of the engineers. "We found that five of the six elevators were frozen between floors, and a sixth had stopped near floor level. … We had to go in through the ceilings of the elevator to check for people. … All were empty."

Agent Alex McCauley could not possibly have broken out before the team arrived, said James, "not unless he had a blowtorch with him. … The doors were all frozen shut. … It took several of our men over twelve hours just to get the one elevator [opened]."

None of the elevators had been in a free fall. "That's pure fantasy. Modern elevators have counterbalances and can't free-fall unless you cut the cables, and none were. There are a series of backup safety switches that will lock an elevator in place if it increases in speed more than 10 percent."

The Midwestern Elevator Company took extensive photographs to document the inspection. These records were later reviewed by ABC's 20/20 program. The pictures confirmed that all the safety cables were intact.

As the details emerged, the ATF began to back away from its claims, suggesting that the blast created the sensation of a falling elevator. "Well, maybe Agent McCauley just imagined he free fell," said Lester Martz in a taped telephone interview with J. D. Cash.

Agent McCauley was transferred to Kansas City and quietly demoted. The Justice Department, however, clung resolutely to the story of his accomplishments. Joseph Hartzler, the chief prosecutor in the case against McVeigh, repeated the tale in a court filing on Nov. 7, 1996, dismissing any doubts about the matter as "outrageous." At the time, Hartzler already had the FD-302 witness statements given to the FBI by the elevator engineers, all concurring that the story was fabricated. But Hartzler has never been held to account for deliberately misinforming the
43 posted on 02/12/2003 4:42:34 AM PST by honway
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To: Happy2BMe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/618176/posts

First OKCPD Officer in Murrah Building Murdered, Throat Cut, Body Dragged with Rope

This from a letter written by Police Officer Terry Yeakey before he was murdered.Please see replies #123 and 126 in the link above for more information concerning the letter.

Luke Franey (a BATF agent who claimed he was in the building) was not in the building at the time of the blast, I know this for a fact, I saw him! I also saw full riot gear worn with rifles in hand, why? Don't make the mistake as I did and ask the wrong people.

I worry about you and your young family because of some of the statements that have been made towards me, a police officer! Whatever you do don't confront McPhearson with the bomb squad about what I told you. His actions and defensiveness towards the bombing would make any normal person think he was defending himself as if he drove the damn truck up to the building himself. I am not worried for myself, but for you and your group. I would not be afraid to say at this time that you and your family could be harmed if you get any closer to the truth. At this time I think for your well being it is best for you to distance yourself and others from those of us who have stirred up to many questions about the altering and falsifying of the federal investigation's reports.

I truly believe there are other officers like me out there who would not settle for anything but the truth, it is just a matter of finding them. The only true problem as I see it is, who do we turn to then?

It is vital that people like you, Edye Smith, and others keep asking questions and demanding answers for the actions of our federal government and law enforcement agencies that knew beforehand and participated in the cover-up.

44 posted on 02/12/2003 4:50:59 AM PST by honway
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To: Happy2BMe
>>Now how did they explain that? <<<

The ATF only claimed two Agents were in the Murrah Building at the time of the blast,Alex Elevator McCauley, and Luke Franey.

The fantasy Luke Franey told the public is more unbelievable than the elevator story. The words of Terry Yeakey are sufficient for me after reading Franey's testimony.

Sadly, there were ATF administrative personnel in the building, and in fact, injured in the blast, but no Agents.

46 posted on 02/12/2003 4:58:14 AM PST by honway
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To: Happy2BMe
Honway. . .

Thank you for this great info!

I need to digest it and get back.

Noone in their right mind has ever really settled for the official story on who bombed OKC Fed Bldg, why, and exactly what was discovered (or covered up) during the scence investigations (e.g., military AIR-AIR missle found in the debris).

47 posted on 02/12/2003 5:15:00 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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