To: Interloper
First off - Germany has been taught well that they should not engage in any wars. Now they don't and everyone calls them Nazis... Go figure..
Secondly - Schroeder is the one that doesn't want to get involved at all. The CDU is flabbergasted at his policies and already said they would have already signed up to be on the U.S. side. Now we find out that Schroeder is doing this NO WAR campaign on his own. Joschka Fischer with the Greens and him are screaming at each other because Fischer thinks Schroeder has no clue what he is doing (in which he has got a point). The french now say that Schroeder and them never had a plan for Iraq. Meanwhile Fischer was right when telling Rumsfeld it he had nothing to say about the German/French plan... Cause he didn't know himself. Oh, but the U.S. papers are not reporting those parts...
Actually Reuters is only reporting HALF the story above... Wonder why...??
Just looked at the actual story in German...
The question was asked: Is a politician more worried about keeping the peace OR willing to go to war to defend his interests.
-- Befragt danach, ob ein Politiker eher "auf Erhalt des Friedens bedacht" sei oder "bereit zu einem Krieg, um seine Interessen durchzusetzen"---
That's where Bush got 93%... Anyone disagree with that answer..????
80% didn't say the U.S. wanted to boost it's power BUT the USA saw a war as tool to implement/enforce their power....
57% affirmed the question "are the usa a war mongerer" true or false...
However... this story is so slanted it's not even funny... Story in German if you would like to read for yourself is here:
http://ftd.de/pw/de/1044527463015.html?nv=se
Blessings...
To: STFrancis; Michael81Dus
Would you help put my concerns to rest?
I served in Germany from 1988-1992. I spoke German fairly well and lived on the economy. I made friends with my neighbors and the German soldiers we served with.
I'm starting to get the impression there has been a "madrassa" movement since the wall fell in Germany to re-educate the German public - in the media or in public schools - to downplay Americanism (even anti-Americanism) and improve nationalism.
This poll really bothers me. I no longer think this is a problem with the Schroeder administration, but a rift in the transatlantic friendship brought about by EU-ism and nationalism from German reunification and anti-NATO expansion feelings.
I'm really at the end of my rope here. I'm asking my reps in Congress to support Bush/Rumsfeld in relocating US forces from Germany and sanctioning German businesses.
104 posted on
02/10/2003 11:09:31 AM PST by
optimistically_conservative
(We're approaching the one-year anniversary of Democrats accusing Bush of a "rush" to war.)
To: STFrancis
First off - Germany has been taught well that they should not engage in any wars. Now they don't and everyone calls them Nazis... Go figure..I will help you figure it out.
It's because they have decided to actively give aid and comfort to yet another Jew-hating totalitarian state, ruled by a spiritual descendant of Hitler (see roots of Baath party), instead of behaving with honor or with the least sense of gratitude to the United States.
I can call the Germans whatever I like now with impunity.
To: STFrancis
First off - Germany has been taught well that they should not engage in any wars. Now they don't and everyone calls them NazisGermany has not been so "taught." Germany was prepared throughout the span of the Cold War to fight to the death the Soviet authoritarian threat. That threat has dissolved, largely through US resolve, resulting in the liberation of the communist-enslaved masses of eastern Europe.
Saddam is another authoritarian threat, able and willing to invade other nations and to employ weapons of mass destruction. However, Germany has done an about-face and now stands ready to protect this grotesque, mass-murdering, Jew-despising evil. Germany is reverting to type.
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