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From Excitement to Horror: Columbia's Last Flight Online (New York Times)
New York Times and Free Republic.Com | 9 Feb 03 | Tom Kuntz

Posted on 02/09/2003 4:02:34 AM PST by leadpenny

New York Times Week in Review

From Excitement to Horror: Columbia's Last Flight Online

By TOM KUNTZ

The 1937 Hindenburg airship disaster was carried live to a large radio audience. The 1986 space shuttle disaster happened live on network television before millions of stunned viewers. Almost from the beginning, the 9/11 attacks were broadcast live worldwide.

Last weekend's shuttle disaster also unfolded live, but the primary medium was arguably not radio or television. It was the Internet. A small audience of space enthusiasts learned of trouble in real time by tuning in to mission control in Houston via NASA TV's Webcast (also available via satellite dish and some cable providers).

Some of the shuttle trackers in the western United States also kept an eye on the skies, and shared their impressions online. An illustration of their reactions, moving from excitement to confusion to horror, can be found in an online discussion for shuttle buffs on the Free Republic Web site; it was begun by a reader 38 minutes before the Columbia's scheduled 9:16 landing (www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833885/posts).

The first sign of something wrong comes at 9:05 — at least 11 minutes before The Associated Press moved the first wire-service alert and the TV networks began live coverage (which had the first video of the breakup, shot minutes before).

Excerpts from the online discussion follow. All times are Eastern unless otherwise noted.

The discussion was begun by "leadpenny" at 8:38 a.m.:

Space shuttle Columbia is in a descent for the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and will pass over the San Francisco area around 6:00 a.m. Pacific Time. Route will take the shuttle over Las Vegas, Flagstaff, etc. NASA has still not decided which runway will be used. Landing will be at 9:16 a.m. Eastern.

From leadpenny at 8:42:

I'm watching on NASA TV but I believe you can also watch at nasa.gov. Just north of Hawaii now.

From SamAdams76 at 8:42:

As I write this, the Shuttle should be re-entering the atmosphere of the planet Earth.

From leadpenny to SamAdams76 at 8:44:

We can only hope.

From winodog at 8:53:

I am up and in Vegas. Sounds like I better put some shorts and a T-shirt on and go outside to watch.

From leadpenny to winodog at 8:54:

Just a few minutes away from you.

From leadpenny to winodog at 8:56:

45 miles overhead just to the north of you.

From ken in texas to leadpenny at 8:56:

Supposed to be passing by around 8:03 [C.S.T.] here in Dallas. Getting ready to check it out.

From winodog at 8:57:

Wicked!!!! I was just in time to see it streak across leaving a white trail.

From leadpenny to ken in texas at 8:57:

Hope you have clear skies.

From leadpenny to winodog at 8:58:

Was it glowing at all?

From winodog to leadpenny at 9:00:

It came from just north just like you said. I was out looking already. As soon as I read the time it hits S.F. and touchdown time I knew I better hurry up. That is on the list of cooler things I have ever seen. Thanks!

From leadpenny at 9:01:

15 minutes to touchdown. Heads up north of New Orleans.

From winodog to leadpenny at 9:03:

It wasn't a glow that spread back like a comet but it must have been "on fire" because it was bright and big.

From ken in texas to leadpenny at 9:04:

Perfectly clear . . . what a sight!!!!!

From leadpenny at 9:05:

Little commo [communication] problem right now.

From leadpenny at 9:07:

Still no UHF commo. They gotta have backup.

From leadpenny at 9:08:

Seven minutes to touchdown.

From leadpenny at 9:11:

No commo for the last 11 minutes. Five minutes to touchdown.

From leadpenny at 9:13:

Don't know if anyone is watching NASA TV but it is awfully quiet.

From leadpenny at 9:13:

By now there would have been cameras on the shuttle.

From leadpenny at 9:15:

Don't know about the controllers but my pulse is going up. They are still seeking tracking data. Going to contingency procedures.

From don-o at 9:15:

Contingency procedures.

From leadpenny at 9:15:

Folks we are at touchdown. Something is wrong.

From ken in texas to leadpenny at 9:15:

An unsettling quiet. I hope all is well.

From nicepaco to leadpenny at 9:16:

Hope they find them soon.

From SMEDLEYBUTLER to leadpenny at 9:17:

No radar track either. Hope everything is all right and this is only a technical snafu. Should be visible from the Cape [Canaveral, Fla.] by now.

From leadpenny at 9:17:

Everyone, check the networks.

From 1john2 3and4 to ken in texas at 9:17:

This really happened: got to this thread, clicked on browser to get NASA TV, heard sonic BOOM, Fort Worth (just after 8 a.m.), run outside, MASSIVE contrail leading right into the eastern sun. . . . . . . awesome!

From SamAdams76 to leadpenny at 9:19:

I hope everything turns out okay.

From leadpenny at 9:19:

It should already be down. Nothing!

From don-o to leadpenny at 9:20:

Folks, I fear the worst has happened.

From leadpenny at 9:21:

The Columbia was making four drastic turns over the Western U.S. to dissipate speed. That's the last they heard from it.

From don-o to leadpenny at 9:24:

Anything on TV, besides NASA TV?

From McGruff to leadpenny at 9:24:

This is scary! I was monitoring your thread when MSNBC started having someone on who was saying: "We should have seen it by now. It should be here by now."

From My back yard to McGruff at 9:26:

Prayers going out. Hope they aren't too late.

From leadpenny to McGruff at 9:27:

They should have had cameras on it about 10 minutes out. I fear the worst.

From 1john2 3and4 to My back yard at 9:28:

Prayers

From SMEDLEYBUTLER to leadpenny at 9:29:

Unconfirmed reports of debris discovered in Texas. Looks as though the shuttle has been lost. God bless the crew.

From McGruff to leadpenny at 9:29:

CNN showing video of it breaking up over Dallas! It's gone!

From leadpenny to ken in texas at 9:30:

You may have been the last to see the Columbia.

From 1john2 3and4 to leadpenny at 9:35:

Dear lord . . . what I heard was the EXPLOSION! not a sonic boom.

From leadpenny to 1john2 3and4 at 9:36:

Are you in Texas?

From 1john2 3and4 to leadpenny at 9:40:

Yes . . . Ft. Worth.

From Molly Pitcher to ken in texas at 9:47:

It's said to have broken up over Dallas. Was it intact when you saw it? Or did you see multiple trails?

From ken in texas to Molly Pitcher at 9:53:

At first I was just in awe of the sight. After it passed from view I realized that something just didn't look right. Instead of just one glowing spacecraft it looked as if there were smaller glowing pieces moving off and away from it. In retrospect, I realize that it was breaking apart.

From Molly Pitcher to ken in texas at 10:10:

Okay. Thanks, the fellow in Vegas just ahead of you probably saw it intact then.

From My Favorite Headache to leadpenny, 1:17 p.m.:

This thread needs to be saved as a piece of symbolic history . . . of the last moments of Columbia.

From seamol to leadpenny; don-o; ken in texas; winodog; 1john2 3and4; all, 11:48 p.m.

Thank you for your contribution to history today.


TOPICS: Extended News; Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: columbia; columbiatragedy; eyewitnessaccounts; feb12003; fr; freerepublic; historyinthemaking; nasa; newyorktimes; spaceshuttle; sts107
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To: leadpenny
From don-o to leadpenny at 9:20:
Folks, I fear the worst has happened.

I am vey pleased that he corrected the syntax in my original. My fingers were shaking, and I belive my pulse was 300.

81 posted on 02/09/2003 1:59:45 PM PST by don-o
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To: dennisw
Yeah I had Usenet through my university and later held it as an alumni and had some at an early "cyber cafe". I didn't get much use with the early websites though (not until 1995).
82 posted on 02/09/2003 2:00:45 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
Yeah I had Usenet through my university and later held it as an alumni and had some at an early "cyber cafe". I didn't get much use with the early websites though (not until 1995).

May I ask how that worked? Did you dial into your university at any time from miles away? To be connected? Or did you have to go to the campus?

83 posted on 02/09/2003 2:09:09 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: weegee
First time I ever saw the internet was January 1997. First thing I made my friend show me was websites for Miles Davis and crop circles. He had a 14.4 external modem on his wife's Gateway w/ a Pentium 90mhz computer.
84 posted on 02/09/2003 2:12:36 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: dennisw
I had a 300 baud modem that I used to dial into a VMS server. Generally I would go to the computer lab (open 24 hours) which offered no graphics support, just green (or orange) monitors, email, newsgroups, ftp, "chat", and compiliers (Fortran, Pascal, C...).

I could dial in at faster rates in later years but it was a long distance call and eventually that account expired from lack of use. A small server was set up at a coffee/bar nightclub in town in the early 1990s and it offered a simple monitor/keyboard setup (one user at a time, no charge).

I haven't done much world travelling but am surprised by how few people in other countries have tried to open free email accounts (many countries have cyber storefronts that allow websurfing for as low at 50cents an hour). When I went to Europe, I went to a few US sites to get a rundown on recent events/headlines.

85 posted on 02/09/2003 2:19:26 PM PST by weegee
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To: dennisw
I've plugged my name into google and yahoo and am surprised at some of the documents (or text) that remains on the ethernet. Someone used one of my old usenet posts as an "example" of the internet.

I think that there may be some text signalling that you can type into a Usenet post to prevent it from being archived (never tried it myself). Retention of Usenet posts varies by server.

I think that much of the SPAM I receive came originally from Usenet posting and eBay bidding.

It'll be surprising to see what future researchers find out there lingering on the internet.

The "American" Taliban's conversion from hiphop loving musician to Islamist revolutionary can be traced in his Usenet posts (some of which he adopted a "black" persona for). One of the early details I located on the 3 students who were stopped in Florida (after being accused of making terrorist threats in Georgia) was a university blog where one of them encouraged fellow muslims to bias an MSNBC poll as to who was the most influential philosopher (they ran Mohammed's name to number one).

There is some anonymity on the internet just as there is some anonymity behind the wheel of a car but always be mindful of what you say. These electronic bits stay around longer than regular conversations (and they don't always portray the image of us we would like others to see).

I generally hold to my posts and will confess that I've eliminated some phrasing before posting (typing something has been enough to get it out of my system on occassion).

86 posted on 02/09/2003 2:30:27 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
Thanks for telling me the way it was way back when dinosaurs ruled the earth

I haven't done much world travelling but am surprised by how few people in other countries have tried to open free email accounts (many countries have cyber storefronts that allow websurfing for as low at 50cents an hour). When I went to Europe, I went to a few US sites to get a rundown on recent events/headlines.

This is reflected by more liberal yahoo email policies in Europe. I just set up a yahoo France e-mail account since it allows 6mb storage (4 in USA) and allows POP access via your e-mail program. (Yahoo now charges for this in the USA)

87 posted on 02/09/2003 2:32:53 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: weegee
I think that there may be some text signalling that you can type into a Usenet post to prevent it from being archived (never tried it myself). Retention of Usenet posts varies by server.
______________________

x-no-archive at top of your post.
88 posted on 02/09/2003 2:35:52 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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Afternoon bump.
89 posted on 02/09/2003 2:37:16 PM PST by Jael
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To: weegee; Orange1998
Thanks for setting the record straight on the Houston Freep.
90 posted on 02/09/2003 2:43:17 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: don-o
LOL. Tom Kuntz quietly made a number of corrections that I could see. Descent instead of decent was the most notable.

I tell you it's vanity, all vanity. I don't know how many gas stations, 7-11's, bookstores, super-markets, etc., I have visited in the last couple of hours looking for a copy of the NYT. Finally found the last copy they had at a Starbucks nearby.

91 posted on 02/09/2003 2:49:02 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny; John Robinson
Yes.

I go belive for believe.

Can we possibly get a spellcheck installed here?

92 posted on 02/09/2003 3:02:15 PM PST by don-o
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To: leadpenny
WOW bump
93 posted on 02/09/2003 3:02:27 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ; don-o
I check the member #'s of many here on FR, and when I see FReepers like you two, with four digits or less, I think about all of the things you have seen since the early days. The place is an institution, I tell ya.
94 posted on 02/09/2003 3:10:21 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: ken in texas; leadpenny
You're welcome. Thank YOU for your comments that fateful day.

bump

95 posted on 02/09/2003 4:00:23 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: don-o
get a spellcheck installed here

Here's what I do when I'm not in a hurry. I copy the text I'm gonna post into a blank Microsoft Word document and let that do my speel checkin.

Should work with other word processors too.

96 posted on 02/09/2003 4:12:37 PM PST by McGruff (Columbia did not return safely to Earth; yet we can pray that all are safely home.)
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To: leadpenny
You have mail!
97 posted on 02/09/2003 4:17:46 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: leadpenny
Thanks for being there and doing what you do (watching the shuttles). This is your 15 minutes of fame. Are you coming to the rally in NYC on Friday?
98 posted on 02/09/2003 4:23:12 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (May God bless the souls of the 7 aboard Columbia.)
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To: Dec31,1999
I've have a FReep mail from our DC warlord and need to check my work schedule. I hope I can make it.
99 posted on 02/09/2003 4:41:41 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Congratulations on the thread of February 1, 2003. You and the rest of the contributors on that day have intersected on the course of a still unfolding historic event. Tragically, this event was one of deep sadness to an entire nation. But I think the real story today, one week later, and written about in the New York Times, is more about the medium, as opposed to the message.
Your actions taken that day, and the resulting thread gives Free Republic a certain patina of viability, and certainly credibility as more than just a conservative forum. Free Republic can now be seen as a one-stop shopping arena for late breaking news, without filters, as well as conservative opinion and philosophy.
I would think accepting congratulations after such a tragedy would be uncomfortable, to say the least. Understand that the accolades are for bringing to light just one of the many factors that puts Free Republic on the leading edge of the new standard in journalism.
100 posted on 02/09/2003 5:25:51 PM PST by BalancedRock
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