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To: ancient_geezer
I agree with you 100%.

I feel though that as long as there is an income tax, it is our duty as citizens to fight the IRS and the tax system.

When everyone ignore the IRS and their supposed laws, then and only then will real reform occur.

I've written my senators and congress for over 20 years with no result.

Many people have decided that this government will not adress the grievences of the overtaxed in this country. The only way to fight is to use the law and overwhelm the IRS and the DOJ with passive resistance.

Many people have dropped out or are using the underground economy to fight this beurocratic nightmare which is the tax system.

My favorite quote of Albert Einstein is when he was asked the question..."Mr Einstein, is there anything that man can never understand?"

His reply was..."Yes, the tax laws of the United States."

643 posted on 02/20/2003 2:52:28 AM PST by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive

When everyone ignore the IRS and their supposed laws, then and only then will real reform occur.

Supposed laws? Those laws are quite real and have a real consequence when not abided by.

The violation of any law breeds only disrespect for all law, and the rule of law is destroyed s as a direct result.

Advocating the destruction of the rule of law, is not consistant with defending and protecting the Constitution nor the Republic it guarantees.

No I do not agree with your assessment not the route you advocate.

I've written my senators and congress for over 20 years with no result.

Might mean you are demanding the wrong things or offering no viable alternative. Better look at your message both to congress and to your freinds and neighbors the elect Congresses.

You indicate you want to end the power of the IRS. But that will not happen through disrespect for or ignoring law, that just encourages the strengthening of enforcement efforts and strengthening the very institution you say you want to get rid of.

To end the IRS one must offer a better alternative and encourage the electorate, Not just individual Congress Critters, towards making the change through Constitutional processes, not lawlessness.

John Linder (R Georgia) offers a comprehensive bill to kill all income and payroll taxes outright, and provide a IRS free replacement:

H.R.25
SPONSOR: Rep Linder, John (introduced 01/7/2003)
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.
Refer:
http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org

Strange, that in your supposed desire to end the IRS you have not suggested getting removing of the law that is the basis for their existence. The means exists to do so, I suggest you start working for the change by reaching out to your friends an neghbors (the electorate) to enable appropriate and lasting change for the better.

Doing it your way, the guy sitting behind bars is removed from the fight as is the one impoverished by fighting perpetual legal battles. Neither has much capacity to render aid to anyone's cause.

Constitutionality, and legality, have little to do with morality. A Moral law is dependant upon moral persons acting to ensure only moral law is enacted and immoral laws are removed.

Under this republic and its Constitution that can only be accomplished by legislative means. The alternative is the destruction of the Republic, and you are up for grabs as to what follows. Under the moral condition of our current society I can guarantee what follows will bear no resemblance to the result envisioned by the forefathers of this nation.

644 posted on 02/20/2003 8:41:27 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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To: Radioactive
It has been said a neurotic is one who does the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

The Tax Protest FAQ

649 posted on 02/20/2003 9:04:50 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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