[ActionNewsBill]

Break out the tar and feathers and somebody fetch some rails for the ride out of town. About 600 should be enough. I'll bring the rope, just in case.

And the Bush-bots will contnue to live in denial, and sing the praises of this "godly" "conservative" president and administration.

I keep thinking that if clinton pulled half of the crap that this president is pulling, we'd have a revolution.

[dcwusmc]

Agreed. But my question is, given the tendencies of some on this board alone, who'd have replaced him?

[DBrow]

"And the Bush-bots will contnue to live in denial, and sing the praises of this "godly" "conservative" president and administration."

Go back to the Antiterrorism Act of 1995 if you wish to see the roots of the Patriot Act, which just brushes up some details.

In TA95 you will find secret trials, open wiretaps, secret evidence, the accused not facing the accusers, illegally obtained wiretap evidence admitted in trials (of "terrorists" of course).

If the AG decides a state-level crime is terroristic, the feds can come in and take over any state investigation or trial.

It extends the constitutional "commerce clause" to include international commerce. It has a clause overriding any state constitution- a clear and blatant violation of the 10th amendment.

Go look it up if you want to see who laid the groundwork for the stuff you are complaining about now. The Patriot Act is trivial compared to this camel's nose under our tents.

The media and all the Clinton supporters went along willingly and gleefully in 1995- there was little dissent or complaining heard. Janet Reno and Bill Clinton said they needed these laws to make us safe and that was it. Bush-Bots had not yet been invented, but are now a convenient scapegoat for what happened to our freedoms in 1995- and you cannot deny who was president then, eh? What kind of bot are you?

The original House bill is HR2703. I don't have the Act number but a trip to Thomas will let you find the final version