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To: Byron_the_Aussie
But yeah, our side lost it.

Let's see,here. The VN communists claim to have lost about 2 million people,and we lost less than 60,000. What kind of new math are you using to make that turn into a military loss?

We failed.

It was a POLITICAL failure,not a military one. We had politicians and their advisors with ZERO combat experience running the war and the battlefields,and trying to micro-manage every move made. Kinda like what happened under Bubba-1,and is happening again under Bubba-2.

The question (which I am not going to get into here, except for how it relates to this thread) is, 'why?', in terms of whether terrorising the population and throwing the infantryman's rulebook out the window is a factor.

Ok,I think I have discovered where the problem lies. You have been miseducated by the left. It was the COMMUNISTS who terrorized the civilian population,and this is the biggest reason they got so many to work for them. The US government sent soldiers,nurses,doctors,engineers,etc,etc,etc around to the villages to provide aid.

I think it is, and those books I mentioned, written by or about people with far more Vietnam experience than me (or you), agree.

Not a single one of the people you mentioned knew squat about guerilla warfare,or ever fought as unconventional soldiers. I DO have more experience at this than any of them,and this includes Hackworth.

420 posted on 02/11/2003 5:43:50 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
..let's see,here. The VN communists claim to have lost about 2 million people,and we lost less than 60,000. What kind of new math are you using to make that turn into a military loss?...

Pete, we lost the Vietnam War. One of the innumerable reasons has got to be the Perry mentality. Unless all Christian morality is stripped from our culture we will never be able to out-terrorise the enemy. We will instead become the enemy.

Did you become the enemy, Pete?

428 posted on 02/11/2003 6:09:54 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: sneakypete
..it was the COMMUNISTS who terrorized the civilian population....

No.

Our side did it too, especially the ARVNs.

476 posted on 02/12/2003 1:40:08 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: sneakypete
.not a single one of the people you mentioned knew squat about guerilla warfare,or ever fought as unconventional soldiers...

Neither did Perry, so let's stick to the facts.

478 posted on 02/12/2003 1:50:10 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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