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Canada unmoved by new U.S. evidence
Toranto Star ^ | 2/05/03 | JOHN WARD

Posted on 02/05/2003 5:52:28 PM PST by kattracks

No change in position despite 'persuasive' U.S. argument

OTTAWA - Despite a "disturbing and persuasive" argument that Iraq is trying to deceive UN weapons inspectors, Canada will await further word from the inspectors themselves before deciding whether to join the United States in any military response.

Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham said today that U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell made a convincing presentation to the UN Security Council suggesting that "Iraq seems to be trying to fool" UN teams searching Iraq for caches of forbidden weapons.

But, Graham added, Canada will await the decision of the council later this month before deciding on a course of action.

We are not at a point where there is a need to use force," he told a news conference. "However, we don't have much time left."

Graham was reacting to Powell's long-awaited speech at the UN, in which he detailed U.S. allegations that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has defied UN demands to rid his country of chemical and biological weapons.

The minister said the matter rests with Hans Blix, the chief arms inspector, who is to return to Iraq this weekend and will report back to the council Feb. 14.

"We need to give that inspection system a last chance, maybe one, maybe two, over a couple of weeks," Graham said. "If Dr. Blix comes back with a report saying that under no circumstances has Saddam Hussein any intention of co-operation with the inspectors at that point ... the other consequences have to flow."

Saddam has to show he's willing to disarm and to co-operate. If he doesn't, "the world has to take action to enforce its resolution," Graham said.

Powell outlined a circumstantial case, including satellite photos, intercepted communications and the word of unidentified informants, which suggested that Iraq maintains stocks of chemical and biological weapons and is hiding them from inspection.

Graham said he was impressed by Powell's willingness to use top secret material, even against the advice of security authorities.

"One thing that was somewhat surprising to me was the fairly extensive use of highly classified security materials, which usually the United States and other governments are very reluctant to provide," Graham said.

While he said Powell didn't provide a smoking gun, he did show a suspicious pattern of conduct by Iraq.

Canadian Alliance Leader Stephen Harper urged the government to side firmly with the United States, which says it will act unilaterally against Iraq if it deems such a move necessary, even without approval from the world body.

"What is the benefit now of giving Saddam Hussein the benefit of the doubt?" Harper asked the House of Commons.

Outside the House, Harper said Canada should take a stern stand.

"I think we should declare with our allies that Iraq is in material breach (of UN demands) and in order to increase the pressure on Saddam Hussein, that we should be redeploying in the Gulf region."

Alexa McDonough of the NDP told the House that Powell's "so-called evidence" proved nothing. Her party's position is that nothing justifies war against Iraq.

The Canadian Arab Federation said Canada should be trying to restrain the apparent U.S. zeal for war.

"Colin Powell is asking us all to take quite a big leap of faith ... to believe these assertions are proof that Iraq is producing weapons of mass destruction," said Audrey Jamal, the group's executive director.

She said she wants to see a diplomatic solution.

There were others who were suspicious about Powell's claims.

Shahina Siddiqui, a board member with the Canadian branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said Powell was repeating old claims.

"I don't find it a convincing argument for war," he said.

He brushed off the tapes of alleged intercepted communications between Iraqi officers.

"Those tape recordings, I'm sorry, but these days anything can be manufactured."

Imad Khadduri, a former Iraqi nuclear scientist who immigrated to Canada in 1999 and works as a college computer instructor in Toronto was equally skeptical.

"The so-called evidence provided is threadbare," he said. Allegations about nuclear weapons "are flimsy, they are not true and I can disprove all of them with facts, because I lived them."

He said he worked on Iraq's nuclear weapons program from 1968 until after the Gulf War, when the project was destroyed.

Powell is spreading "disinformation," he said.

Khadduri conceded, however, that he had no personal knowledge of chemical or biological weapons stock.

Brian MacDonald of the Atlantic Council, a think tank that tracks UN issues, said the problem is that people are asking the United States to prove its case against Iraq, when the onus should be on Saddam to prove he doesn't have banned weapons.

So far, Canada has said it will await the decision of the Security Council, but Prime Minister Jean Chrétien has not closed the door on joining the United States without further UN approval.



TOPICS: Canada; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; gw2
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Send Mr. Graham a box of Kleenex.

Why? Because he's a crybaby, or because he's a jerk-off? 8)

21 posted on 02/05/2003 6:27:35 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: Grig
I hate to vote here in my country, last year was the first time I voted in years because no one has a backbone and doubletalks. But there are some real People here. Let me tell you GOd's people here are the only reason Canada's still standing because we pray for America and support Israel thats why Canada is still beautiful. Not becuase of the Liberals or the Conservatives or the NDP it is GOd's people holding this thing together. Pray!
22 posted on 02/05/2003 6:30:21 PM PST by ruready4eternity
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To: Grig
I have a feeling that if an NDP member gets home and finds his wife in bed with another man he's not gonna classify it as a "patern of peculiar behavior". I also doubt he'll demand to inspect to make sure there was no coitus.

Or maybe he will?
23 posted on 02/05/2003 6:33:01 PM PST by Bogey78O (It's not a Zero it's an "O")
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To: Grig
Three types of Canadians are going to be affected. Those that are so leftist/Haldol/govie types that nothing short of being pushed into a roadside ditch with their hands wired behind their backs, then the middle mulling about, and the last, the knowingly decent. The first should be shot, the third group the comments weren’t direct to, and the middle is to be made embarrassed so that they will get off their socialist butts and move towards the light.
24 posted on 02/05/2003 6:33:06 PM PST by Leisler (Canada, gateway to Hudson Bay)
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To: kattracks
Canada.. the France of the Western Hemesphere...
25 posted on 02/05/2003 6:35:41 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: kattracks
"We need to give that inspection system a last chance, maybe one, maybe two, over a couple of weeks,"...

Just what does this guy think a "last chance" is anyway? It's oxymoronic (and just plain moronic) to talk about giving more than one "last chance".

But more to the point, last fall, Resolution 1441 clearly stated that it was Hussein's last chance to come clean. So any talk of another "last chance" is utter stupidity.

I guess, for these people, it also depends on what the meaning of "last" is. Bill Clinton, claim your minions.

26 posted on 02/05/2003 6:36:19 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: ruready4eternity
Being from California you are always judged by the geographical company you keep. Support runs deep everywhere. Don't be suprised though, when certain new immigrants show up "blue". We will leave a business card.
27 posted on 02/05/2003 6:42:22 PM PST by davisdoug
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Alexa McDonough of the NDP told the House that Powell's "so-called evidence" proved nothing. Her party's position is that nothing justifies war against Iraq.

Personally, I think pissing off Alexa McDonough and the NDP is more than enough justification.

28 posted on 02/05/2003 6:43:02 PM PST by Timesink (My name's Harley Earl. And I've come back to build you a great tampon.)
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To: Tamsey
Bump!
29 posted on 02/05/2003 6:45:34 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: kattracks
Boy scout troops in Canada rumored to be replacing the country's remaining military forces.
30 posted on 02/05/2003 6:45:59 PM PST by alrea
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To: kattracks
Cowards! Unmitigated cowards... One can only wonder what ever happened to our so-called friends north of the border... Going French I suspect... No wonder the western provinces want out!
31 posted on 02/05/2003 6:46:03 PM PST by gatorgriz
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To: gatorgriz
Actually Canada wont be split up , WE will just lose the boarder as they are doing right now and we will become the United Western Continent along with Central America
32 posted on 02/05/2003 6:52:14 PM PST by ruready4eternity
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To: gatorgriz
Just remeber we havent had a election and Chretien our prime Minister has lost touch with us Canaidians. hate our goverment but we are with you ... just to let you know that.
33 posted on 02/05/2003 6:54:03 PM PST by ruready4eternity
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To: kattracks
I suspect that Canada, France and others are dithering around until it's too late to send ground troops to participate in ground action in Iraq.

I further suspect it's because they are not prepared to cope with a battlefield environment which is likely to include bio/chem weapoins being used against your troops.

I expect Canada to provide occupation troops after the fighting is over.

That's OK with me.

What frosts my cajones is that we aren't getting any moral or diplomatic support from Ottawa.

34 posted on 02/05/2003 6:55:38 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: Joe Bonforte
Ahh,
remember the days when people actually believed they're allies and stood beside them...oh wait, that was us, I'm sorry this is just another case of the world wanting America to fail....
35 posted on 02/05/2003 6:55:58 PM PST by Blue Scourge (Proud American...)
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To: kattracks
What a sorry lot those Canucks are.
36 posted on 02/05/2003 6:57:22 PM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Buddie ,direct yr comments to our Government not us :)
37 posted on 02/05/2003 6:58:05 PM PST by ruready4eternity
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To: Timesink
Personally, I think pissing off Alexa McDonough and the NDP is more than enough justification.

Isn't this the appeasababe who's going to bring a bunch of her pinko friends down here to conduct "arms inspections"?

38 posted on 02/05/2003 6:59:59 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: ruready4eternity
First I aint your buddy, second,someone in Canada voted for those people. Canada is fast becoming a freeloader on the US for its own protection. That is reality.
39 posted on 02/05/2003 7:01:28 PM PST by cynicom
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To: kattracks
They don't want to be convinced because they're....

(Man I LOVED that cover!)

40 posted on 02/05/2003 7:02:37 PM PST by CarolAnn
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