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Bush Team Promotes $2.23 Trillion Budget
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 2/4/03 | MARTIN CRUTSINGER

Posted on 02/04/2003 4:58:09 PM PST by RJCogburn

President Bush, wasting no time in trying to capitalize on last year's Republican takeover of both houses of Congress, is asking Congress to endorse a new $2.23 trillion budget with a heavy emphasis on tax cuts.

Judging from the initial reaction, though, Bush will be under intense pressure to trim the tax cuts and boost spending in areas favored by Democrats in the still closely divided House and Senate.

Bush's spending plan for the 2004 budget year that begins Oct. 1 proposes $1.3 trillion in tax cuts over 10 years, increased spending for defense and homeland security and record budget deficits.

Democrats charged that Bush was shortchanging critical government needs in order to provide more tax cuts to the wealthy.

"Priority after priority is being sacrificed at the expense of President Bush's unfair, unaffordable and ineffective tax cuts," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., one of five potential Democratic presidential rivals who attacked the plan.

Members of the president's economic team, including White House Budget Director Mitch Daniels and newly sworn-in Treasury Secretary John Snow, were headed to Capitol Hill on Tuesday to begin their efforts to win votes for the proposal.

House Republicans for the most part applauded the budget, saying they agreed with Bush's assessment that the tax cuts are needed to jump-start a weak economy and that the deficits will melt away once the country returns to stronger economic growth.

"The president's budget lays a sound framework for expanded security, economic strength and victory over the forces of terrorist tyranny," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

But some Republicans in the Senate, where the GOP has a thin two-vote majority, were more guarded.

Sen. Charles Grassley, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said he was focused on finding "tax policies that can deliver the most immediate bang for the buck." Grassley has openly questioned whether he can round up enough votes for the centerpiece of Bush's economic stimulus proposal, eliminating individual taxes on stock dividends.

Bush's budget included the $670 billion in tax cuts over 10 years he first unveiled in January as an economic stimulus program, but the proposal has now grown to $695 billion. Treasury added $25 billion to the original $360 billion price tag for the dividend measure, after re-estimating of the program's cost over a decade.

Bush's budget also includes $588 billion in other tax relief, including making permanent the 2001 tax cuts, due to expire after 2010.

Bush blamed the deficits on the 2001 recession and the war on terrorism and insisted in his budget message to Congress that the best way to get back to a balanced budget was to boost economic growth through further tax cuts.

One item certain to get extra scrutiny after Saturday's loss of the space shuttle Columbia was Bush's proposal to provide NASA with a modest 3 percent increase - to $15.5 billion for the fiscal year that begins next Oct. 1, including a 4.7 percent increase for the shuttle program.

Less than two years after Bush projected $5.6 trillion in surpluses for the next decade, on Monday he estimated $1.08 trillion in cumulative deficits for the coming five years alone.

The budget mostly projected five years ahead instead of the customary 10 years. Administration officials said longer forecasts are guesswork, while Democrats said Bush did not want to reveal the full, bleak impact of his budget policies.

The president called for setting aside $400 billion over the next decade for revamping Medicare, the health insurance program for 41 million elderly and disabled people, including adding prescription drug coverage.

Bush proposed to give states more latitude in spending federal funds for Medicaid, which provides health coverage for the poor, and for Head Start preschools in low-income neighborhoods.

Marian Wright Edelman, president of the Children's Defense Fund, accused the administration of "waging a budget war against poor children."

The president would spend $782 billion next year for the operations of all federal agencies, excluding the two-thirds of the budget that covers automatic benefits like Social Security. That is $30 billion, or 4 percent, more than Bush has so far sought in the bills for this year that lawmakers are still writing.

Of that, half would be for the Pentagon, giving it a 4.2 percent increase over this year, to $380 billion. The new Department of Homeland Security would grow to $26.7 billion, $1.3 billion more than its component agencies are on course to get this year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: federalbudget2004
estimated $1.08 trillion in cumulative deficits for the coming five years alone.

What happened to the Balanced Budget Amendment when we need it?

Just because the repubs are now in power doesn't make the issue any less valid. We should be just as critical.

1 posted on 02/04/2003 4:58:09 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
The Chinese should do quite well on all the coming defense contracts
2 posted on 02/04/2003 5:06:34 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: RJCogburn
I'm against the government seizing and redistributing 2 trillion dollars of American's wealth, but one must view these deficits in light of the economy and the budget. From Nealznuz
Year Amount of Deficit Percentage of Domestic Product
      2004        $307 Billion         2.7%
      1992        $290 Billion        4.7%

1983   

       $207 Billion        6.0%

3 posted on 02/04/2003 5:06:59 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: RJCogburn
Spend all you want, we'll print more.


4 posted on 02/04/2003 5:10:11 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Gunslingr3
Yes, I saw those numbers on anither thread about the budget. I shall repeat myself.

Maybe its the biggest, maybe not. One can play all sorts of number games.

The problem with your example is that when I run a deficit, I have to pay it off eventually.

Now, if I run a deficit but intend for my children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren to deal with it, rather than dealing with it myself, well, then, if I make $10,000 and run a deficit of $500, or if I make $50,000 and run a deficit of $1000 I've left my future family in worse shape with the $1000 deficit, your number juggled notwithstanding.


5 posted on 02/04/2003 5:10:49 PM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it is pretty bold talk......)
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To: Gunslingr3
No. We must view these deficits in how much the yearly cost of paying them back is. That amount is about 350 Billion per year, or the 2nd or 3rd largest item in the budget. Add another Trillion or so onto the debt at that yearly number jumps to between $425 to $500 Billion dollars.

Nice future we are leaving our childern.


6 posted on 02/04/2003 5:15:27 PM PST by Karsus ((TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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To: RJCogburn
Pubbies won't be in long if they don't cut spending.
7 posted on 02/04/2003 5:17:17 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Karsus
No. We must view these deficits in how much the yearly cost of paying them back is. That amount is about 350 Billion per year, or the 2nd or 3rd largest item in the budget. Add another Trillion or so onto the debt at that yearly number jumps to between $425 to $500 Billion dollars. Nice future we are leaving our childern.

I'm certainly not fond of it, but they'll be paid back in inflated paper dollars. As such, the key figure in determining the 'price' of the debt isn't to look at it simply in total number of dollars (whose value the Fed busily destroys), but as a percentage of the economy. A $300 a month payment is a bitch when you make $1000 a month, if you're making $3000 a month, it's not nearly as bad.

Please don't mistake this for a defense of the budget, or the government seizing 2 trillion dollars from Americans - I find that abhorrent. It's just that the denunciation of these 'massive' deficits needs to be placed in context.

8 posted on 02/04/2003 5:52:17 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: RJCogburn
Heck, we should have the government as far in debt as possible, and never pay it back. If they can't borrow any more money they can't SPEND ANY MORE. In the meantime, we should limit taxes as much as possible so WE don't go broke.
By that time, hopefully, we can stop government OVERspending. It's foolish to think we can continue runaway spending with no consequences.
9 posted on 02/04/2003 5:58:16 PM PST by caisson71
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To: RJCogburn
if I make $10,000 and run a deficit of $500, or if I make $50,000 and run a deficit of $1000 I've left my future family in worse shape with the $1000 deficit, your number juggled notwithstanding.

If it's the year 2000 and your debt is $500 and in the year 2020 your debt is $1000 dollars, it's not necessarily twice as high. It depends on how much the currency has been devalued by inflation. In constant dollars that debt might well be smaller. These deficits are part of the inflation (it's seed essentially). Straight comparisons of them are misleading.

10 posted on 02/04/2003 6:02:40 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: caisson71
If they can't borrow any more money they can't SPEND ANY MORE.

That works, without a federal reserve, but now the federal reserve prints money out of whole cloth and trades it for government bonds. Those bonds are then treated as assets and used by banks as reserves. To pay them back the government taxes. If they didn't tax to pay them back your paper dollars would be worth... paper.

11 posted on 02/04/2003 6:06:59 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
It depends on how much the currency has been devalued by inflation

True, but we also need to think abouit the interest on that debt which really adds to the deficit, kinda like that credit card debt you just can't pay off.

12 posted on 02/04/2003 6:24:22 PM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it is pretty bold talk......)
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