[eddie willers]

Rational? To give our government the power to determine the 'rationality' of non-dangerous persons is a non-rational act in itself.

You both have me on this point.
Shall we amend it that to "criminally insane" as found in a court of law, and/or as to be found so incompetent as to be under the care of a legally appointed guardian?

[tpaine]

Rational? To give our government the power to determine the 'rationality' of non-dangerous persons is a non-rational act in itself.

You both have me on this point. Shall we amend it that to "criminally insane" as found in a court of law, and/or as to be found so incompetent as to be under the care of a legally appointed guardian?

Here's the real problem with 'regulating' sales of weapons. It gives the state the ability to, in effect, prohibit person to person transfers, as per existing CA law. -- I cannot legally give my adult grandson a gun. It must be a registered transaction thru a licensed dealer.
This violates a number of my constitutional rights to property [see 14th], as well as the 2nd.

[Blue Collar Christian]

I see you are listening, that's good.

You still think that regulation is what to do when you admit it is ineffective though. Is there interference on this line? Am I breaking up?

Check out "Project Exile" and see what is effective.

This thread started with our NRA president being an example of someone observing the results of gun control and humbly changing his opinion, to the point of making it his life's (probably final, as his health fails) commitment.

I hate Hollywood, but I have to tip my hat to Chuck!