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To: Dr. Frank
>>Fascism is an extreme measure taken by the bourgeoisie to forestall proletarian revolution<<

In plain English, one could say that the Germans hated and feared the Soviets and thought Hitler would be a good way of preventing a Communist/Socialist takeover of Germany.
16 posted on 01/30/2003 8:01:59 PM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
In plain English, one could say that the Germans hated and feared the Soviets and thought Hitler would be a good way of preventing a Communist/Socialist takeover of Germany.

Ok. This doesn't answer the issue I raised, which was about the nonsensicality of a statement like " measure taken by the bourgeoisie to forestall proletarian revolution" in a society like ours, where there's no clear delineation between "bourgeoisie" and "proletarian". But I don't disagree with what you say.

62 posted on 01/30/2003 11:30:03 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: CobaltBlue; Sparta; weikel
In plain English, one could say that the Germans hated and feared the Soviets and thought Hitler would be a good way of preventing a Communist/Socialist takeover of Germany.

Bingo. Communism is the ultimate form of evil. Sometimes the ends justify the means in the real world.

Flame suit on. (Cringing while typing).

While the things Hitler and Himmler did was inexcusable, I'm not so sure the majority of 19-20 year old kids who fought on the Eastern front to save their country from the communist menace even knew about Auschwitz.(Berlin was infested with communists who worshipped Mark and Engels). Does some gunny sarge in Kabul know what Powell and Rummy talk about and plan -no. Franco and Pinochet were heroes. I know my buddy Sparta and I don't see eye to eye on this and he's going to break my cajones, but I have to call 'em like I see them. If it takes a fascist to overthrow Chavez in Venezuela,Lula in Brazil, or Castro in Cuba-so be it.

84 posted on 01/31/2003 7:03:53 AM PST by MattinNJ
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