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To: John Lenin
...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect.

Revisionist history. Marxism and Fascism both condemn capitalism. They are philosphical fraternal twins.

Nazism was inspired by Italian Fascism, an invention of hardline Communist Benito Mussolini. During World War I, Mussolini recognized that conventional socialism wasn't working. He saw that nationalism exerted a stronger pull on the working class than proletarian brotherhood. He also saw that the ferocious opposition of large corporations made socialist revolution difficult. So in 1919, Mussolini came up with an alternative strategy. He called it Fascism. Mussolini described his new movement as a ``Third Way'' between capitalism and communism. As under communism, the state would exercise dictatorial control over the economy. But as under capitalism, the corporations would be left in private hands.

Hitler followed the same game plan. He openly acknowledged that the Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the ``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler eliminated trade unions, and replaced them with his own state-run labor organizations. Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler hunted down and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

Hitler regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so in speech after speech. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps.

The Nazis are widely known as nationalists, but that label is often used to obscure the fact that they were also socialists. Some question whether Hitler himself actually believed in socialism, but that is no more relevant than whether Stalin was a true believer. The fact is that neither could have come to power without at least posing as a socialist.
A Little Secret About Nazis

See also:
Socialist Origins of Neo-Nazi-ism
You Mean Hitler Wasn't a Priest?
All Socialism is National
Joseph Goebbels own words: "Those Damn Nazis", long German propaganda piece defining intent and meaning of the Nazi's....National, Socialists....left-wing, "third way."


Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism

There was and is nothing "holy" about Fascism, Naziism, Communism or the other socialist systems. They all conflict with Biblical teachings. Every system that claims to care about the workers while condemning employers is historically false and un-Biblical.

130 posted on 02/02/2003 7:18:13 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for posting those links. Anyone who is interested in understanding this subject would do well to read them, particularly the link to Goebbels' campaign documents, such as the one you linked "Those Damn Nazi's"

BTW, that site also has a few campaign documents where Goebbels is appealing to the Nazi's main recruitment grounds, the Communists, trying to convince communists to exchange one red flag for the other.

If anyone is seriously interested in this subject, I recomment they read Goebbels' diaries, where Goebbels' laughs at the Fascists, and believes them incompetent. It's also instrutive to read Mein kampf, where hitler points out that the red flag of the national Socialists was chosen deliberately to represent the socialis aspect of the German Worker's Party, and to lure communists to the Nazi movement. (Nazi's were socialists, not fascists)
135 posted on 02/03/2003 8:03:54 PM PST by Archimedes2000
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
One other thing: You called this revisionist history when John Lenin posted it.

> ...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. <

It's not revisionist. If I'm not mistaken, that is Mussolini who wrote those words, and from his perspective, he's right.

Mussolini understood that marxism was class warfare. Mussolini's fascist movement in one respect was the complete opposite, where the proletariat did not demand the overthrow of the borgiouse classes. In this respect, fascism and national Socialism had commonality, since National Socialism believed all work, whether a doctor or a laborer, belonged to the working class. (Goebbels speaks of this in the pamphlet you linked)

136 posted on 02/03/2003 8:11:49 PM PST by Archimedes2000
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