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To: tpaine
"That statement is quite laughable given its context. A decent human being would teach these people: how to appreciate and fight for their own freedom, how to support themselves, and how to educate women from spreading their legs/having children they cannot support/and getting AIDS in the first place."

That's true, and it's just what Bush proposed. He said first that _preventing_ AIDS was the goal. Treatment of existing sufferers was second on the list. Education is the only way to prevent it, so you can expect that to be the principal thrust.

273 posted on 01/29/2003 1:15:00 PM PST by MineralMan
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To: MineralMan
That's true, and it's just what Bush proposed. He said first that _preventing_ AIDS was the goal. Treatment of existing sufferers was second on the list. Education is the only way to prevent it, so you can expect that to be the principal thrust.

No sale there. Government has proven over time that its ability to educate is horrifying at best. Education has turned into indoctrination of values that are relativistic and irresponsible; even when its intentions are good. At this present time I cant see any government sponsored "education" program being unscathed by the PC police force in Washington/Ithaca(The City of Evil Inc.)/Bezerkly. You don't really think that the this "education" would include any form of abstinence do you? or help to make these people self-sufficient? or basic morality as to how a functional family should operate/exist? I highly highly doubt it...and I have good reason to. Government should not be envolved in these kind of things...charity and the church should.

276 posted on 01/29/2003 1:33:15 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be)
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To: MineralMan
That statement is quite laughable given its context. A decent human being would teach these people: how to appreciate and fight for their own freedom, how to support themselves, and how to educate women from spreading their legs/having children they cannot support/and getting AIDS in the first place.
If, we are to be decent human beings...we should do that. The problem is, thats not happening. The governemnt is stealing yours and my money to throw money and expensinve drugs at the problem in order to save a few lives and give good face to the center-left. The root of the problem will continue and opportunities will be there for other politicians to show how nice they are by throwing yours and my money at the problem in the future too. How verrrrrrrrrry decent.
234 posted on 01/29/2003 12:01 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus


--- "So, you're OK, and to heck with the rest of the world, eh? How nice. Got any kids? What about them? AIDS does not respect race, sex, or anything else. It's there, and it's deadly. You're OK, but what about your kids, your friends, your neighbors? Feh!"
-MMan-

'So', --- can you refute #234 with any logic? -- I'd bet a lot that you won't even try...
265 tpaine



"That statement is quite laughable given its context. A decent human being would teach these people: how to appreciate and fight for their own freedom, how to support themselves, and how to educate women from spreading their legs/having children they cannot support/and getting AIDS in the first place."
-- BMax says - IN PART -

That's true, and it's just what Bush proposed. He said first that _preventing_ AIDS was the goal. Treatment of existing sufferers was second on the list. Education is the only way to prevent it, so you can expect that to be the principal thrust.
273 -MMan-

Yep, just as I predicted, you don't even try a logical rebuttal of the whole statement, you pretend that the latter portion doesn't exist, and ignore that our government is acting unconstitutionaly in funding such programs.
--- "FEH!", indeed --
281 posted on 01/29/2003 2:07:24 PM PST by tpaine
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