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To: Teacher317
Yes, how dare someone suggest that a child has not waived his right to breathe because they decided to run away from trouble that they caused.

Uh the fact is that this "child" stole somebody's property and put innocent people in danger. If it was up to you all, before making a move cops would have to look up their every action in a manual.

Like I have said before we do not live in a perfect world and we will never get the perfect world you are clamoring for. It was the punk's decision to put other people in danger and yes the situation was tragic, but it could have been stopped if the youth had stopped.

Like I said you all(like the ACLU) let the criminal off and put all of the blame on those who are trying to protect the general populace.

44 posted on 01/28/2003 5:59:24 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
Uh the fact is that this "child" stole somebody's property and put innocent people in danger.

Yep, and he deserved punishment resulting from the trial process.

If it was up to you all, before making a move cops would have to look up their every action in a manual.

ROFL!!! It's called training, and they should KNOW the manual, even under duress. Or would you rather our soldiers just "wing it" and forget their training as they go into Baghdad?

Like I have said before we do not live in a perfect world and we will never get the perfect world you are clamoring for.

True, but that does not mean we instantly forgive those who make mistakes. You certainly aren't forgiving the "child" for his imperfection, even though the same logic could be applied to his actions.

It was the punk's decision to put other people in danger and yes the situation was tragic, but it could have been stopped if the youth had stopped.

It also could have been prevented if the officers who are paid, trained, and expected to follow the rules had done so. If you can celebrate the kid's death for breaking the rules, you should at least be able to see that the officiers should see sanctions for a similar failure that actually cost a life, and didn't "just" risk the lives of the public.

Like I said you all (like the ACLU) let the criminal off and put all of the blame on those who are trying to protect the general populace.

I blame the cops for not holding fast to their training. I expect them to be held accountable when they screw-the-pooch, just like every other citizen is (politicians seem to have a similar exemption, and I'm equally against that)... and I have not once said that the perp should be forgiven for his crime.

I'm all for giving officers the benefit-of-the-doubt when reasonable mistakes are made. I don't see the mistakes made here as reasonable: Running with guns drawn, jumping fences with guns drawn, drawing their guns when they have no reason to suspect the perp has a weapon (the "hand in his pant-pocket while running away" excuse doesn't seem like a reasonable reason to draw to me), and firing the moment they hear gunfire... which likely came from a different direction than the perp. What if they are running through a bad section of town and there's a gunfight involving others? Do they then have the right to simply fire and kill anyone then? Then, how do you prove they even heard a shot at all? The potential for abuse is far too ripe if we were to follow your standards for the police shooting here.

There are justified police shootings. This does not seem like one to me.

50 posted on 01/28/2003 6:15:54 AM PST by Teacher317
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