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To: Boot Hill
And in the present case, that means where crossing a property line can incur certain statutory penalties, those boundaries must be clearly marked.

From the article:

So they parked the van and walked past the fence along the road, not knowing the fence was the park boundary, Simcox said.

What is unclear about a fence, fer chrissake? Only the obtuse and unreasonable men would think that a fence didn't mark a property line.

I fully support what the armed private border patrol is doing in Arizona and I support their efforts to overcome government harassment and opposition to their exercise of their constitutional rights.

You are encouraging anarchy and the destruction of rights.

252 posted on 01/28/2003 5:50:22 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Chemist_Geek
Chemist_Geek suggests:   "What is unclear about a fence...Only the obtuse and unreasonable men would think that a fence didn't mark a property line."

Ignoring for the moment that fences exist for reasons other than demarcating property lines, the issue in this case is whether Mr. Simcox was specifically informed by sign that he was entering National Park property, where possession of firearms was restricted by law. The requirement for such explicit notice in found both in statute and case law all the way to the Supreme Court.

Chemist_Geek suggests:   "You are encouraging anarchy and the destruction of rights."

I see my support as encouraging precisely the opposite.

--Boot Hill

255 posted on 01/28/2003 6:13:22 AM PST by Boot Hill (February 1st)
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To: Chemist_Geek
"You are encouraging anarchy and the destruction of rights"

You're not serious, are you??

Have you read the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, or the Federalist Papers?

According to each of the aforementioned documents, your RIGHTS come from God (endowed by your Creator) not the Park Service, BLM, ATF or ANY other government agency.

Your rights cannot be destroyed...only stolen from you by those who would use their weapons to enslave you.
268 posted on 01/28/2003 7:50:17 AM PST by HadEnough
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To: Chemist_Geek
"You are encouraging anarchy and the destruction of rights."

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can excercise their constitutional right of amending it, or excercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
- Abraham Lincoln

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
- Declaration of Independence

271 posted on 01/28/2003 8:24:07 AM PST by fogarty
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