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"Strong Dollar" Policy Loses its Grip
The Washington Times | 1-27-03 | Patrice Hill

Posted on 01/27/2003 9:46:34 AM PST by Norm640

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OK, I've been accused of wanting to "stifle competition" by advocating some protectionism, but the reason we have such a massive trade deficit is because other countries have restrictive import laws and because the rest of the world gains competetive advantage by paying its workers squat. Does anyone have a clue on how to bring the dollar back?

My opinion is that the US is in a position where it can't act in its own interests economically because of the political backlash from fat-cats around the world. Plus, and I hate to say it, CEOs of American companies couldn't care less if they send their jobs overseas--they still benefit. I fail to see how that benefits the American economy.

But I'm humble enough to realize I don't know everything about this--someone offer some intelligent commentary on how to save America's economy. Thanksa bunch.

1 posted on 01/27/2003 9:46:34 AM PST by Norm640
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To: Norm640
This is the beauty of capitalism - we had artificially high dollar and now the market corrects itself - I suppose in the long run we all would benefit from a weak dollar.
2 posted on 01/27/2003 9:57:03 AM PST by alex
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To: Norm640
Does anyone have a clue on how to bring the dollar back?

It will settle at equilibrium. Besides the Euro has worse fundamental problems when peace breaks out it will sink like a Polish battleship.

3 posted on 01/27/2003 9:57:05 AM PST by weikel (Screw the dems im tired of the lesser evil Its the greens socialist and hardcore commies from now on)
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Does anyone have a clue on how to bring the dollar back?

I would start by establishing a dollar-euro exchange band, with international reserve status parity anchored by a dual OPEC transaction standard. Ideally, followed by a yen-yuan currency bloc benchmarked to the dollar-euro exchange rate and shifting to a fractional reserve global monetary system backed by a diversified commodities bundle...

Those pigs will fly whenever there's nowhere left to turn with the current fiat Ponzi scheme...

5 posted on 01/27/2003 10:10:36 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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In the short term, however, a lower dollar raises the cost of imports and causes the trade deficit to bulge further, while raising prices and threatening to reignite inflation.

Those short term costs are trivial compared to the long term benefits.

A reduction in the dollar is good for the country. A strong dollar encourages the American manufacturing and tech industries to move offshore, taking American jobs with them.

Bottom line: if you like Americans having jobs, you like a lower US dollar.

6 posted on 01/27/2003 10:12:15 AM PST by SerfsUp
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FWIW, if you're interested I can explain all those potential reforms (and why I think they would improve the global economic system), except I have to leave right now & won't have a chance to revisit the thread until late this evening.
7 posted on 01/27/2003 10:18:52 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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I think the simple answer to saving America's economy (which is actually doing quite well given the circumstances) is to drastically reduce the tax burden on the average American.

"Bringing the dollar back" is a loaded proposition. The stronger the dollar is, the more expensive US goods are to the rest of the world, which is bad for the trade imbalance. The cheaper the dollar is, the more affordable American goods are to foreigners and the more motivated they are to buy our goods.

Other countries have restrictive import laws - but in the long run such laws are poison. The Soviet Union had the most restrictive import laws feasible - and compare their economy to ours at the end of their Communist experiment.

You also say that companies which produce goods abroad pay their workers squat - but this simply isn't true. $100 a week isn't much - but when rent at a liveable apartment is $20 a month, it's pretty darned good.

Squat by American standards is, for a Malaysian factory worker, literally four times better than his parents did.

9 posted on 01/27/2003 10:23:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: alex
. For reasons ranging from fear about war with Iraq to low interest rates, a weakening economy and huge trade and budget deficits,

The reason the dollar is tumbling is that the Fed is pushing too much liquidity into the market, far more than is being called for by market actors- banks and producers.

10 posted on 01/27/2003 10:40:50 AM PST by arthurus
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A weak strong dollar is no better or worse than a strong dollar. What is good is a stable dollar, at whatever price in other currencies or gold.
11 posted on 01/27/2003 10:42:21 AM PST by arthurus
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. A strong dollar encourages the American manufacturing and tech industries to move offshore, taking American jobs with them.

Keynesians and other obsessive tinkerers would understand this thinking but such understanding is not of real world economics. It is fantasy. Keynesians and other economic tinkerers understand nothing.

The rest of the world's currencies will come into line with the dollar at some point. Other countries are even more afflicted with tinkerers than US is. Producers go "offshore" because taxes are too high. As the dollar weakens against the other major currencies, the euro and the yen, for a time other countries will buy more here and sell less, for a short time.

At the same time foreign investment will dry up as the dollar is perceived as having decreasing stability and as thus imparting to the US economy greater risk for investment. As such investement ebbs there is less ability in the US to expand and to create employment. Because of the inefficiency of having to guess at inflation rates and changes, the losses from decreasing investment will exceed the gains from "cheaper goods". And the other governments equalize their currencies with the US faster than foreign investors adjust their investments so the damage will outlast the gain.

13 posted on 01/27/2003 10:57:28 AM PST by arthurus
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STABILIZE THE DOLLAR so that its value neither rises nor falls in terms of gold. A stable currency and low tax rates make a country very inviting to foreign investment. Investment increases production and reduces prices as more is produced more efficiently.
14 posted on 01/27/2003 11:00:47 AM PST by arthurus
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while a stable dollar is "best" - it is also "impossible".

Utterly untrue. A system that maintains the dollar at an unvarying exchange rate with gold will suffer neither INflation nor DEflation. That is the essence and definition of stability.

While stability is easily attained it is not likely to BE attained because that takes from the government the power to inflate an economy out of debt, which is what US is doing right now. As the deficit rises in number of dollars it falls in percentage.

The fantasy is that the government can tinker constructively to increase wealth ond/or employment. It cannot. It can reduce wealth and employment by creating instability.

GWB is a market oriented conservative but his advisors have been "conservative" Keynesians. They want the right things for the economy but know not how to make those things happen. They know how to tinker. It is the carpenter whose only tool is a skilsaw and it is broken, but he uses it for every job anyway and the job he is to do consists of all preshaped cuts.

15 posted on 01/27/2003 11:13:57 AM PST by arthurus
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To: jojomatic
a weak dollar means that all of our imports are instantly more expensive

So, we will import less and manufacture more locally and (as neo-isolationist) I feel that this great.

17 posted on 01/27/2003 12:26:07 PM PST by alex
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ahhh... you're a gold standard person... nevermind

It surely does make things easier for liberals when they can find a word that shifts them back into the slogan mode of argument. "Gold" is such a word sometimes. Capital is another. And "banks"... You can feel that the pressure is off for having to think rather than emote.

18 posted on 01/27/2003 12:45:48 PM PST by arthurus
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We will import less temporarily but will not necessarily produce more. The necessary drop in foreign investment occasioned by weakening the dollar (inflation) is a reduction in available capital. That capital is what makes production more efficient and reduces prices. Rising prices due to lack of competition are a sign of falling productivity. The prices go up and people's incomes go down. Their dollar incomes remain the same but because everything they buy is more expensive, those incomes are effectively lower. The nation with the highest productivity will have the most jobs and the highest incomes. Any government interference in the market reduces productivity. Low taxes, minimal regulation(including NO tariffs), and stable money will make for the richest economy with the highes incomes and the fewest poor and/or unemployed. There are no exceptions to this rule.

In an extreme scenario, if US has no restrictions on imports, no tariffs, and the rest of the world has high tariffs, The rest of the world's investment capital will flow to the US because that is where the highest rate of return will apply. Foreign industry will have greatly reduced sources of capital. Their prices will vlimb steeply and plant will not be improved. Most prodution will go to US so long as it can be made cheaply enough to be sold at all because the foreign consumers will not be able to afford it. The only better situation economically for US is for there to be no trade barriers at all. When all plant and capital, foreign and domestic, can be directed to production without the drain of capital to pay for government intervention, then all people will improve economically.

19 posted on 01/27/2003 1:01:57 PM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus
Good set of explanations and from my still superficial submersion into classical economics, the correct one. Too bad most Americans and most everyone in government still thinks the floating dollar is some magical force that is the only answer to world currency value. If the dollar were pegged to gold, Greenspan would have recognized and been forced to act on the deflation that began in December 1997 that may have been the more likely cause of the dot-com destruction than a so-called "bubble" (lack of liquidity forced tenuous and highly speculative IPOs to raise capital).
20 posted on 01/27/2003 1:08:08 PM PST by Tucson
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