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To: ko_kyi
Hm. See, from this account:

"Walker had 11 gunshot wounds, including five in the back. "

"Der and Kifer fired, hitting Walker five times with shotgun pellets and six times with bullets from Der's .45-caliber handgun."

I had interpreted "five times with shotgun pellets" as being five different discharges of the shotgun, not five pellets. But if you have another source that says different, then that's a different issue.

But there's still some issues, to me. First, I'd think that if you were shot 5 times with a .45, you'd have gone down before the 5th shot. So that's a bit questionable. Then there's the issue of five shots in the back. If that's five pellets from one shotgun firing that hit him as he spun around, O.K. If they stood over him and pumped 5 rounds into him after he fell down on his face, then that's wrong. Is there a source for more detail on what happened?
18 posted on 01/24/2003 9:11:40 AM PST by RonF
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To: RonF
First, I'd think that if you were shot 5 times with a .45, you'd have gone down before the 5th shot.

From the article; " Walker, who had no money or drugs on him, was intoxicated and high on morphine, according to an autopsy report."

I'm not sure if his morphine buzz keep him going like a zombie or not, that's a possiblity though.

21 posted on 01/24/2003 9:18:22 AM PST by csvset
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To: RonF
The question should not be:

"Is it worth killing a man to protect X"

rather:

"Is it worth me risking my life to steal X?"

The burgler created the situation and started the chain of events that led to his own demise. If he had not broken the law, he would not be dead, but he chose to put his own life on the line when he broke into that warehouse. Therefore, the responsibility of his own death is entirely due to his own choices and actions.

22 posted on 01/24/2003 9:19:06 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: RonF
Well, I think their website is www.kennyder.org. While it doesn't explicitly state that my interpretation is correct, you can understand why I thought that there was only one shotgun blast. Here is an excerpt:

The testimony and cross-examination of the Medical Examiner, Dr. Ripple consisted of her making statements about the number of bullet wounds and the direction the body had been hit. From what I remember she stated that the body had been hit multiple times basically once in the front leg. Once in the front abdomen, once in the back arm and once in the back of the head. She stated that the bullet to the back of the head would of dropped the intruder down immediately. There were also a couple of grazes.

Upon questioning she admitted that the back of the head wound was probably the last hit since it would of dropped him automatically.

There is more detail about lots of other stuff as well.

27 posted on 01/24/2003 9:54:36 AM PST by ko_kyi
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