Why We Need Afirmative Action

1/23/03 | WCL

[dirtboy]

Nice tongue-in-cheek...

[AppyPappy]

I'll support AA if they add fat white men to it.

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[MrB]

Actually, wouldn't 15% be more fair?
An extra 20 points on a 150 pt scale is 13 1/3%.

Imagine this - your skin doesn't reflect as much light as the majority, so you get an extra 13% on a pass/fail (entry/no entry) test.

[cynicom]

Law...

I think Chief Charles Moose, Phd, should be your prime example.

A few points here, a few points there and look what we got.....

[Pharmboy]

No problem here...as long as Jewish and Chinese guys (and what ABOUT the gals?) get to play for an NBA team even if an AA guy is better.

[Positive]

Now this is real movement towards "leveling the playing feild." I agree with you completely, but I would take your plan a little further.

I think that minorities should be given even more grade point average assistance (GPAA) in the study for professions where they are most under-represented. For example in Medicine and Surgery perhaps they should be given say a 30% GPAA and in Engineering feilds maybe a 35% GPAA.

There is a very unfair disparity among my choices of who gets to remove the tumor from my brain and who does the engineering of these 60-100 story buildings that are being built and it disturbs my sense of compassion and fairness.

[WashingtonCollegeofLaw]

Ive tried to have discussions with pro-AA people and it is next to impossible. there really is no rationale for having AA. Larry Elder's books the 10 THings You Cant Say in America and Showdown both illustrate the farce which is AA. I for one wouldnt want to live my life with the stigma attached that the only reason that i got into so and so school or so and so job was because of my race. AA implies that minorities are inferior and need help, which isnt the case. Plus, Jesse Jacksons kids go to agreat private school and they get the added boost of AA, where as a poor white kid in the inner city is SOL. makes perfect sense in my eyes. On with the slavery reparations!!

[edsheppa]

A different "solution" that would save plenty of money: skip the classes and just give them a diploma.

[redblood_american]

Stupid fat white men would be even better....lol

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

Many English-speaking writers, at least since Shakespeare, have found it useful to captitalize "I". Also, while I'm picking nits, "AFFIRMATIVE" actually has TWO (count 'em, 2!) F's.

But I will be glad to give you 20 bonus points- after all, inability to spell and ignorance of grammar is a handicap, no?

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

You are not REALLY in Law School , are you? I thouht that literacy was the ONLY requirement that our Schools of Law still maintained...

[WashingtonCollegeofLaw]

Why should I have to learn to spell? As an Irish-French-English-German-Polish-Russian-American, my ancestors tried to kill each other pretty regularly. Each of my ancestors was forced to toil in crappy jobs in order to get ahead, which clearly is unfair. I think its only fair that because of my ancestral history I be given priority over someone more qualified. On a side note, I think I should sue all my motherlands for intentional infliction of emotional distress and demand reparations.

[ffusco]

In acedemia, as in profesional sports, we must lower the bar so that minorities can compete and succeed. LOL

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[dirtboy]

You are not REALLY in Law School , are you? I thouht that literacy was the ONLY requirement that our Schools of Law still maintained...

It's satire, dude. The problem is, it's such good satire that it sounds like something that could have come from Jesse Jackson's mouth...

[Bogolyubski]

An even better idea would be to have all of the newly minted affirmative action medical school graduates practice their trade at Walter Reed hospital and other DC area institutions where our beloved government officials go for free medical care. After all, they've already presumably worked on cadavers.

[Teacher317]

From this thread (Ann Coulter):

So now we have idiots like Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., saying race discrimination is no different than colleges admitting legacies. One difference is – as Terry Eastland famously said – we didn't fight a civil war to stop colleges from giving a preference to the children of alumni. But Biden says colleges shouldn't stop obsessing with race "unless we're going to eliminate it all, all incentives, like, for example, in the case in Michigan everybody is talking about now. You know you get four points if you're a legacy ..." Sure, that's just like getting 20 points for being black.
Biden thinks if he gets applause from a student audience, he must have made a legal argument. He seems to imagine he is actually learning law from watching Court TV. His next irrelevant point was: "Give me a break. I mean how many people would get into Harvard, Yale and the rest of these places if their father had not gone?" There's an answer to that! This columnist did the math! On the basis of their SAT scores, 82 percent of legacies admitted to Harvard would have been admitted to Harvard even if they were not legacies. Only 45 percent of blacks admitted to Harvard would have been admitted to Harvard if they were not black.
But I've been tricked into arguing a nonissue by Biden's imbecility. If colleges wanted to admit only legacies, or only tuba players, or only people who got astonishingly low SAT scores – to ensure some of their graduates would be U.S. senators one day – the Constitution wouldn't stop them.
What the states, including state colleges, cannot do under the Constitution is discriminate on the basis of race. What even private colleges cannot do under federal law – if they accept federal funds – is discriminate on the basis of race. Neither the Constitution nor federal law says anything about discrimination on the basis of SAT scores, legacies or athletic ability. We've had a civil war, a constitutional amendment, a Supreme Court ruling, a National Guard mobilization and a federal civil rights law to try to get the Democrats to stop with the race discrimination. All we can do now is sit back and wait for the wart healers to speak.

Is Equal Protection the law or is it not?

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

OK, I take it back. If minorities don't have to learn to spell, then why should any of the rest of us? I'm just grouchy this morning- time for a doughnut (mmmm, DOUGHNUT!!!)

I think that James Lileks did a piece on the deterioration of spelling and grammar skills due to the Internet and video games- pretty convincing, for me.

I am crushed that you didn't pick up on my misspelling of "thought", though.

And you should have challenged my assertion that all english writers capitalized the "I". Certainly, ee cummings did not- but then, he didn't capitalize ANYTHING (or "anything").