[Torie]

It is unrealistic to expect either major party in Congress to depart from conventional wisdom to attempt to change public opinion in seminal ways. It happens on occasion under stress, or with someone like Newt, but it is rare. Typically that is done, if at all, by a president.

[Red Jones]

but nobody's asking the republican party to sell the public on any ideas. We just wish the republicans would conform to what we want. The problem is not with the citizens. The problem is with the people in washington.

[Karsus]

What president do you think will do that? GWB? The same GWB that is 110% behind the War on Terror yet will do nothing to protect our borders?

[gcruse]

or with someone like Newt,

Which is why conservatives had to run him out of town.  There is nothing more dangerous than an honest man.