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To: unspun
Of course, the Scriptures also testify that God's testimony is self evident (Romans 1&2).

Yes it is. And yet, there it is, in black and white. Like I said, Being self evident doesn't preclude it being in the scriptures.

Also, be careful who's getting kicked! In America, Caesar is us folk!

Is now. Wasn't then. :)

182 posted on 01/23/2003 3:52:18 PM PST by tacticalogic (revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night)
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To: tacticalogic
unspun to you: In America, Caesar is us folk!

Is now.

Sorry, I strongly disagree. The "government" does not equal the "people." Our constitutions make a clear distinction between the government and the people. For example, in Article I Section 8 of the federal constitution, the people delegate a few powers to the government. In Amendment 9, the people retain all rights not delegated to the government.

I remember hearing Professor Murray Rothbard digress one time in his History of Economic Thought class. He said his wife had Larry King on the radio on the drive to class that evening and Larry told a caller, "...but, but, in America the government is the people." Rothbard couldn't help wondering, "If the government is the people, does that mean that when the government kills us like they did at Waco, that we are committing suicide?"

183 posted on 01/23/2003 4:59:02 PM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham
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To: tacticalogic
Also, be careful who's getting kicked! In America, Caesar is us folk!

Is now. Wasn't then. :)

Apolgies for reading your post too hastily.

Yet, were we Caesar then? Yes and no and yes, according to the D of I, Ay?:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...."

187 posted on 01/23/2003 7:29:40 PM PST by unspun (A little hooch, a little high, yet more chaos, and in the strongman flies.)
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