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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
Jesus was a tax-resisting anti-statist. And that's why they killed him.

You make three claims here that are not true. Your claims in the above sentence are:

1)Jesus did not pay taxes.
Matthew 17:24 After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma tax came to Peter and asked, "Doesn't your teacher pay the temple tax?" 25"Yes, he does," he replied. When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak. "What do you think, Simon?" he asked. "From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes--from their own sons or from others?" 26"From others," Peter answered. 27"Then the sons are exempt," Jesus said to him. "But so that we may not offend them, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."

2)Jesus was an anti-statist.
Matthew 5:38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. 43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."

Matthew 13:41 "The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil." [Sorta sounds like statism, don't it?]

3)Jesus was killed for being a tax-resisting anti-statist.
John 19:7 The Jews insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."

129 posted on 01/22/2003 3:14:42 AM PST by .30Carbine (For rulers are not a terror to good works)
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To: .30Carbine
"From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes--from their own sons or from others?" 26"From others," Peter answered. 27"Then the sons are exempt," Jesus said to him. "But so that we may not offend them..."

The best time to break out of a concentration camp isn't always right now in full view of the guards. As Headsonpikes pointed out in #133, you can recite the text, but miss its clear meaning.

44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

And you think this means that Jesus was pro-state persecution?

John 19:7 The Jews insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."

It looks like Jesus obeyed God's law and not the State's

Like a lot of pro-statists around here, I think your fear of the power of the state has gotten in the way of your ability to understand Jesus' anti-state life and message.

136 posted on 01/22/2003 8:06:58 AM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham
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