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Retired Cop Waves White Flag in War on Drugs
The Standard-Times (MA) ^ | 15 Jan 2003 | John Doherty

Posted on 01/16/2003 7:43:37 AM PST by MrLeRoy

After fighting the war on drugs for nearly 30 years, Lt. Jack Cole is ready to admit defeat.

The retired New Jersey State Police detective -- who spent 12 years as an undercover narcotics officer -- spearheads a movement to legalize all narcotics as a way of ending the bloody, expensive war.

"The war on drugs was, is and always will be a dismal failure," said Mr. Cole yesterday to a meeting of the Fairhaven Rotary Club.

Mr. Cole is one of the founders of an international nonprofit group called Law Enforcement Against Prohibition -- LEAP.

That group, which includes current and former police officers, judges and others, is proposing nothing short of legalizing all narcotics -- including heroin, cocaine and marijuana -- and having the federal government regulate them.

While that might sound radical for a detective who spent the better part of his career looking to jail both users and sellers of drugs, Mr. Cole said it is the only rational viewpoint after a career on the front lines of the war on drugs.

While spending what Mr. Cole estimates to be $69 billion per year in law enforcement and prison costs for drug offenders, Americans have seen drug supplies become more plentiful and the drugs themselves more powerful and cheaper.

Mr. Cole acknowledged to the dozen Rotarians yesterday that the idea of legalizing narcotics -- similar to policies in Amsterdam -- sounds foreign.

The first question many people ask is whether drug decriminalization will increase drug use, especially among the young.

Mr. Cole pointed to studies in which young Americans said it was easier to obtain marijuana and other drugs than it was to purchase government-regulated alcohol and tobacco products.

Holland sees a lower rate of marijuana use among its young people, in part because decriminalization has made the drug boring, Mr. Cole said.

"We at LEAP are asking you to listen and to think about these ideas," said Mr. Cole, who is pursuing a doctorate in public policy at UMass Boston.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: addictedlosers; drug; druggieskill; druglawskill; drugskill; gunskill; peoplekill; roadkill; soylentgreenispeople; wod; wodlist
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To: MrLeRoy
I don't know exactly what would happen, but if it's anything like in China during the Opium War in the 1840's, a nation of people with little understanding or refuge from the consequences of excessive drug use can have disastrous consequences on society.
61 posted on 01/16/2003 8:42:44 AM PST by Tony Niar Brain (Choose your enemies carefully, for you will become like them...)
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To: MrLeRoy
While spending what Mr. Cole estimates to be $69 billion per year in law enforcement and prison costs for drug offenders...

Wow, that would pay for a lot of re-hab with a nice refund to the taxpayers left over.

62 posted on 01/16/2003 8:42:44 AM PST by MileHi (So much for the "welfare for druggies" argument)
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To: Tony Niar Brain
a nation of people with little understanding or refuge from the consequences of excessive drug use

Why should anyone think today's Americans have "little understanding of the consequences of excessive drug use"? And what's all this about "refuge from the consequences"---where is our refuge from the consequences of alcoholism?

63 posted on 01/16/2003 8:45:10 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
"The war on drugs was, is and always will be a dismal failure," said Mr. Cole yesterday to a meeting of the Fairhaven Rotary Club.

This is no secret or breaking news. Everyone in law enforcement has known this for 15 years or more....

64 posted on 01/16/2003 8:46:12 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Tony Niar Brain
I don't know exactly what would happen, but if it's anything like in China during the Opium War in the 1840's, a nation of people with little understanding or refuge from the consequences of excessive drug use can have disastrous consequences on society.

Come on, now. Using 1840s-era evidence from CHINA to predict what would happen? Do you really think that Americans today don't know the consequences of excessive drug use?

65 posted on 01/16/2003 8:48:11 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: MrLeRoy
Although staytrue's arguement is valid, it does not change my opinion regarding legalization (i'm for it)

Welfare states encourage addiction since they try to allieviate the consequences of bad "choices". The welfare state and the WOD are joined together at the hip; both must go!
66 posted on 01/16/2003 8:48:29 AM PST by motzman ("Looney Insightful Linguist")
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To: dirtboy
I'm sure Kevin Curry will be coming along soon to slime Lt. Cole. Now if the Lieutennant had shot a dog, then Kevin would be all for him...

But what if a cop denounces Prohibition II and shoots somebody's dog without justification? Kev's brain might explode.

67 posted on 01/16/2003 8:48:30 AM PST by steve-b
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To: motzman
Although staytrue's arguement is valid,

No its not---for the reasons I laid out.

it does not change my opinion regarding legalization (i'm for it)

Cool.

68 posted on 01/16/2003 8:50:23 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: eno_
Yeah, Soros just launched an Orbiting Mind Control Satellite to target cops...

The Intellecutals, aided by the Cattle Mutilators and the Tabloids and using the Orbital Mind Control Lasers, attack to control Local Police Departments....

69 posted on 01/16/2003 8:51:08 AM PST by steve-b
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To: MrLeRoy
It would probably be like it is today with alcohol.
70 posted on 01/16/2003 8:51:12 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr; Tony Niar Brain
It would probably be like it is today with alcohol.

A much apter comparison than 1840's China.

71 posted on 01/16/2003 8:52:49 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
I don't think Americans have little understanding, on the contrary, I think Americans in general have a great understanding of the dangers of drug use. My point was that that understanding must not be allowed to diminish to a point similiar to that of the Chinese during the Opium War. That's why I believe spending on drug education in this country is a worthwhile investment, as is treatment.
72 posted on 01/16/2003 8:54:00 AM PST by Tony Niar Brain (Choose your enemies carefully, for you will become like them...)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I think you misunderstood me; I wanted to use the Opium War as an example of the worst case scenario of when no action is taken to confront drug addiction, neither incarceration nor treatment. Americans today do know the consequences, but it is not a given, and money should be spent on continuing drug education.
73 posted on 01/16/2003 8:57:02 AM PST by Tony Niar Brain (Choose your enemies carefully, for you will become like them...)
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To: Dead Corpse
...and all druggie defenders.

I find that druggie defenders sometimes have trouble following a complex reasoning process (who knew?), so I try to keep it simple. And STILL you didn't follow my elementary, two-step argument. Yikes!

Thing is, that's all I had to say. There'll be dozens more semi-coherent druggie defenders piping up, all upset and everything... but I'm really all-done, and on to something more complex.

Dan

74 posted on 01/16/2003 8:57:43 AM PST by BibChr
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To: Tony Niar Brain
I think you misunderstood me; I wanted to use the Opium War as an example of the worst case scenario of when no action is taken to confront drug addiction, neither incarceration nor treatment. Americans today do know the consequences, but it is not a given, and money should be spent on continuing drug education.

Well I agree with the latter, but I strenuously object to your use of the Opium War as a predictor of a worse case scenario of unchecked drug use during modern times. What was the literacy rate in China during the Opium War?

75 posted on 01/16/2003 9:00:28 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: motzman
"Abortion and Drug Prohibition will be viewed as shamefully as Slavery and Alcohol Prohibition."

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but I thought it was interesting that you predict abortion will be viewed much the same way as slavery in the 'not too distant future'. I hope you're correct, but can you explain what basis you have for stating that?

76 posted on 01/16/2003 9:02:00 AM PST by Paulie
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To: Tony Niar Brain
My point was that that understanding must not be allowed to diminish to a point similiar to that of the Chinese during the Opium War.

Never happen---if understanding slips, real-world reminders will increase.

I believe spending on drug education in this country is a worthwhile investment

Private charity should certainly support such education.

77 posted on 01/16/2003 9:02:20 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: BibChr
I find that druggie defenders sometimes have trouble following a complex reasoning process (who knew?), so I try to keep it simple. And STILL you didn't follow my elementary, two-step argument. Yikes!

Thing is, that's all I had to say. There'll be dozens more semi-coherent druggie defenders piping up, all upset and everything... but I'm really all-done, and on to something more complex.

Ahh, the self-righteous arrogance of the truly pantsed!

78 posted on 01/16/2003 9:02:53 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: BibChr
You HAD no argument. None. Zero. Zip. Nadda.

You made one false statement and a half-assed attempt at a straw-man.

Yep. You better run and hide your head in shame. Come on back if you can think up something that bears some resemblance to logical reasoning.

79 posted on 01/16/2003 9:06:38 AM PST by Dead Corpse (You think you own me? Come here... let's talk.)
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To: BibChr
I find that WOSD defenders usually have trouble following a complex reasoning process, so I try to keep it simple. And STILL you didn't follow my elementary, ONE-step argument.

Unlike drug "crimes," the crimes you mention all have victims---which means that existing and potential victims (or next of kin) stand ready to resist the crime and assist in catching the criminal. Having people standing ready to resist the crime and assist in catching the criminal is, as you seem unable to grasp, a great advantage in fighting a crime---so fighting victimless "crime" is doomed to much less success than fighting true crime.

80 posted on 01/16/2003 9:06:39 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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