To: HamiltonJay
See my last Post, this practice is nothing new. US does it as well I am certain... you don't train assassins to just sit and wait for war... there isn't a government yet who doesn't or wouldn't do it. You are being naive. There is a reason why this practice is not done often, and never on the territory of a powerful ally
If the government of country A sends armed men into country B, for the purpose of killing citizens of country B, then country A has committed an ACT OF WAR against country B. If the act is done with the approval of the head of state of country B, then that head of state is effectively sanctioning hit teams.
The problem I have with it, is once the precedent is set, and people get used to it, then what happens if we get another Clinton-type administration? What if the Mossad gets told by the President "y'know, I have some people who keep causing distractions for me. People like Rush and Jim Robinson. The distractions they cause me prevent me from giving more attention to your problems. Perhaps you could think of some way to handle my problems, so that I could handle yours...".
18 posted on
01/16/2003 9:39:30 AM PST by
SauronOfMordor
(To see the ultimate evil, visit the Democrat Party)
To: SauronOfMordor
One exception to my last post: if the people killed are terrorists from country C, who are engaged in operations aimed at murdering innocent civilians in the country they are currently in, then they are (by longstanding international law) fair game for anybody who gets to them.
19 posted on
01/16/2003 9:42:53 AM PST by
SauronOfMordor
(To see the ultimate evil, visit the Democrat Party)
To: SauronOfMordor
Sauron,
Reality is, hit teams exist, assassinations happen, always have always will. You are completely naive if you think this doesn't happen.
If it takes a hit team to take out some guy like UBL, because he is being protected by say Russia, and is a direct threat to the US, you better believe he's as good as dead, no matter what Russia may think or say. Just as if some major threat to russia may be hiding out here in the US, you don't think the same thing would happen? You bet your behind it would.
Its part of the way the world works, whether we like it or not. We are not talking about indiscriminant killings of political pests, at best. Rush nor Jim Rob, as much as we may find what they do inspiring, rate to a level of assassination, and if our government wanted them dead, they could do it without needing any foreign power involved. You don't need plausible deniability for your own assassins, if they do it, there won't be enough evidence to tie them to the scene anyway. Look at how hard our law enforcement had with an angry wacko and a kid!
Certainly it is legitimate to be concerned, but it is completely naive to think that this doesn't happen, or that even the US, herself does not or has not done such things. We live in a land with such freedom, because just such things do happen. Saddam never got his big bertha gun because the Massad assassinated the idiot scientist who was going to build it for him (thank goodness), and they gave him every oportunity to not go forward with his plans before killing him... IRAQ doesn't have a nuclear reactor because Isreal bombed it to rubble, thank God! Sure these are actions that are considered acts of war, but was the world safer because they happened? You bet it was!
If anything the west has been far too restrained in eliminating world wide threats, IMHO. Israel, as much as anyone has shown restraint far beyond ANY other nation on the planet when dealing with its own terrorism problems. I have no issue with them officially putting terrorists on alert, you plot against us, we will kill you, no matter where you are. Just as I think this is exactly the stand the US should have on the matter.
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