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Sealing the Well
The New York Times ^ | 1/12/2003 | Thomas Friedman

Posted on 01/12/2003 4:54:08 PM PST by Utah Girl

I attended Friday's noon prayers at Cairo's Al Azhar, the most important mosque in Islam. Thousands of Egyptian faithful went through their traditional prostrations and listened to the sermon by the sheik of Al Azhar, who spoke in measured tones about how God deals with "oppressors." At the end, he appealed to God to rescue the Palestinians. It was all very solemn and understated. And then the excitement started.

A split second after he finished, someone tossed in the air hundreds of political leaflets, and a young man was lifted onto the shoulders of the crowd and began denouncing "American tyranny." Hundreds of the faithful then marched around the mosque chanting behind him, while the silent majority shuffled out. It was as if you were seeing two services: first the state-run service and then the street-run service, where the real steam was let off. But here's what struck me most: While America came in for a lashing, no one in this crowd was chanting in support of Saddam Hussein.

This was in keeping with everything I heard in dozens of interviews in Cairo. The good news is that Saddam is no longer viewed as any kind of folk hero, and most people, it seems, would welcome his demise. The bad news is that George Bush and U.S. policy are disliked even more. What gives?

By steamrolling Kuwait in 1990, Saddam looked strong. Today, he appears to be weak, on the defensive and surrendering to everything the U.N. and U.S. are demanding. In the early 1990's Saddam was still benefiting from years of having bought off Arab journalists, who sang his praises. That chorus seems to have dried up now that he is no longer passing out so many Mercedes-Benzes. In the early 1990's Saddam was still viewed as the Sunni Muslim sword standing up to the Iranian Shiites, and most Arabs cared little about how he had abused his people. Now it gets written about. Finally, the 9/11 attack, which emanated from this region, has strengthened people who want to talk about Arab misgovernance.

Raymond Stock, a literary researcher here, told me that an Arab friend of his summed up the mood this way: "Iraq is like a plane that has been hijacked. If the American commandos can free the plane without harming the passengers, then most people will be relieved."

Then why is George Bush so intensely disliked? In part, it's because people feel the president and his team have stopped talking to the world. They only growl at it now. But the biggest factor remains the Bush team's seeming indifference to making any serious effort to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict when so much killing is going on. The administration's refusal to apply any creative imagination to defusing this conflict, and even belittling it while calling Ariel Sharon "a man of peace," has embittered the Arab public. This now clouds everything we do here: Invading Iraq is cast as a war to protect Israel. Democratization is cast as a way to punish the Arabs.

Yes, official Arab newspapers and TV have nourished Arab anger toward America and Israel for decades - and still do. And one regime after another has exploited this conflict for political purposes. But when you sit in a room at the U.S. ambassador's house with 30 bright young Egyptian entrepreneurs, mostly U.S.-educated, and this issue is practically all they want to talk about - or you meet with American studies students at Cairo University and they tell you that many students in their class refused to play a simulation game of the U.S. Congress for fear of being tainted - you feel that there has to be something authentic in their anger about this open wound.

Until it is sealed, it will remain a well for the "thoughts of mass destruction" that will energize every radical anti-American group out here. I am convinced that much of the anger over U.S. policy is really a cry of help from people who know what they have to do - to democratize, liberalize their economies - and who know that they will be lost for another 50 years if they don't, but can't do it because these ideas are promoted by a power they feel is indifferent to their deepest hurt.

I am not talking about what is right, or what is fair, or even what is rational. I am talking about what is. And if we ignore it, if we dismiss it all as a fraud, we will never fully harvest the positive changes that could come from regime change in Iraq. The Egyptian playwright Ali Salem says: "We have an Egyptian proverb: `The drunk is in the care of the sober.' You are the sober. Don't forget that."


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1 posted on 01/12/2003 4:54:08 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Heuristic Hiker
Ping
2 posted on 01/12/2003 4:54:26 PM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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3 posted on 01/12/2003 4:54:33 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: Utah Girl
Notice the way this Friedman the Apologist glosses over the anti-Americanism.
4 posted on 01/12/2003 5:00:41 PM PST by aynrandfreak
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To: Utah Girl
Friedman is an Arab-loving turd.
5 posted on 01/12/2003 5:05:13 PM PST by LarryM
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To: Utah Girl
The majority of Arab Moslems will hate us until we let them destroy Izrael. The good news is thet we now have a president who see these a**holes for what they are and is willing to destroy thr radicals in all their havens. We have more than enough bullets.

If you are against Izrael you are against the word of God.
The God of the moslems is not our God. Their prophet is an antichrist. How else would you explain their love for evil?
6 posted on 01/12/2003 5:10:31 PM PST by Broward Lion
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To: aynrandfreak
Friedman's so in love with his own reflection...he's a stomach turner.

What he does not understand that is that the Arab solution to the Israel-"Palestinian" conflict is for the Jews to die and go away.

Dubya's policy has been not neglectful, but bold and creative, in that he chooses to deal with the reality on the ground, and not wishful thinking in the clouds as x42dirtpotustraitor the rapist did for 8 long and dark years.

7 posted on 01/12/2003 5:12:25 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: Utah Girl
The Egyptian playwright Ali Salem says: "We have an Egyptian proverb: `The drunk is in the care of the sober.' You are the sober. Don't forget that."

Well. We might need to throw the lush in the drunk tank until he sobers up.

8 posted on 01/12/2003 5:29:20 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Utah Girl
"I attended Friday's noon prayers at Cairo's Al Azhar, the most important mosque in Islam."

Cruise missile or daisy cutter?...Decisions, decisions...

9 posted on 01/12/2003 5:43:28 PM PST by boris
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To: Broward Lion
If you are against Izrael you are against the word of God. The God of the moslems is not our God. Their prophet is an antichrist. How else would you explain their love for evil?

It is religious bigotry like this rant that is driving the mess. I thought FR had some rules against hate. Put this same statement in with Jews or Born-again Christians substituted for muslims and see how long before you are jerked.

10 posted on 01/12/2003 5:44:26 PM PST by Seti 1
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To: Utah Girl
What a jerk. How I loathe this smug self-satisfied ass. Friedman is the perfect example of a top student you might have known in high school, on whose head his parents thought the sun rose and set, who moved almost effortlessly from one verablly challenging task to the next, and who somehow nonetheless never really had a single true friend.
11 posted on 01/12/2003 5:50:39 PM PST by beckett
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To: beckett
>> never really had a single true friend<<

Until he finally moved away from the small-minded small town losers that were trying to drag him down to their level and into a circle of his peers, all successful achievers like himself.;^)
12 posted on 01/12/2003 5:56:52 PM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Utah Girl
Why do we give billions in foreign aid to countries that teach and preach hate of America in their media, their mosque, their schools, etc.? Shouldn’t there be some strings attached? Patty Murray, be damned, or we crazy?
13 posted on 01/12/2003 5:58:19 PM PST by Turbodog
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To: Utah Girl
"I am not talking about what is right, or what is fair, or even what is rational. I am talking about what is."

Friedman now admits that "what is" is not rational. He's come a long way from his previous career as Arab apologist and putative Middle East "peacemaker".

One doesn't deal with the irrational by appeasing it. One corrects the misperception with a double-dose of reality. Decisive action in Iraq will go a long way toward that goal. Saddam is one of the financiers and stimulators of Palestinian unrest. Thus, his removal will constitute a major step toward moderating the region.

Then, Arafat needs to be "retired", as well. If and when a rational Palestinian Authority emerges and expresses a willingness to make peace with Israel, we can talk.

If that moment never comes, then the Palestinians will simply have to do without. And the rest of the Arab world will have to learn to live with it.

Tough.

14 posted on 01/12/2003 5:59:06 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Utah Girl
From everything else I've read, this piece by Friedman is a fair and accurate report about an unfortunate situation.

15 posted on 01/12/2003 5:59:55 PM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Utah Girl
"What, oh what, have we done to make them hate us so? And how may we change so as to gain their good graces?"
16 posted on 01/12/2003 6:12:22 PM PST by pabianice
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To: CobaltBlue
Nu-uh...they hated him worse on campus.
17 posted on 01/12/2003 6:13:03 PM PST by beckett
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To: Seti 1; Broward Lion
I basically agree with Seti 1. There probably are good reasons for FR to not have precisely the same standards for pulling hateful messages depending on the target, but Broward Lion did go over my line.

The sort of thing our lion writes makes conservatives look bad. As to whether it is true or false, if there are even ten just persons in Sodom or Gemorrah, this language is not, IMHO, justified. We should rather be encouraging moderate pro-American Islam, which is a minority within Islam but certainly exists. See:

Islamic Supreme Council

18 posted on 01/12/2003 6:19:50 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Utah Girl
Bush has said to the Palestinians: "You'll get your state, if you democratize and obey the rule of law."

That's not creative enough for Friedman?

What a putz!
19 posted on 01/12/2003 6:23:34 PM PST by ricpic
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To: Broward Lion
The God of the moslems is not our God. Their prophet is an antichrist. How else would you explain their love for evil?

That kind of diatribe has been around since medieval times, especially during the Crusades. A lot of people, Christians, too, are not buying it anymore.

20 posted on 01/12/2003 6:33:13 PM PST by RightWhale
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