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To: robertpaulsen
Unreasonable regulations restrict individual liberties paulsen.

Reasonable ones do not?

Correct. They regulate the public aspects of objectionable behaviors. Criminal law covers other aspects of harmful behaviors.

And you know the difference?

I think most of us do. You communitarians however, want restrictive prohibitions:
-- You think it's sane to insist that government has the power to prohibit liberty.

Sane is irrelevant. It is a fact that government has the power to prohibit liberty with due process.

Wrong. -- Government has the power to jail convicted criminals, -- but only by using due process in both the writing & enforcing of the law.

You think it's sane to insist that government has the power to prohibit liberty.and that anyone who protests this power is crazy.

Crazy is irrelevant. Maybe not in your case, no, but in general.

As I said, you are using catch 22 'reasoning' in claiming that protesters are crazy. Your bureaucratic ploy is very relevant. -- It's a main part of your communitarian agit-prop on the issue.

Anyone who doesn't realize that government has the power to deprive someone of liberty with due process is ignorant of the U.S. Constitution, Amendments V and XIV.

Nice twist, right from the Communitarian Manifesto playbook.
Yes, the government has the power to jail convicted criminals, -- but only by using due process of constitutional law.

661 posted on 04/01/2006 1:29:11 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine

You cannot see the forest for the trees buddy.

I am 100% with you that government has no power to regulate, prohibit, or do anything else that interferes with our personal lives unless we violate the right of another.

Problem with you is, you cannot see that different people have different standards in which they see their rights infringed.

Why can't a community get together, like fellow libertarians are trying to do in New Hampshire (I think it is) and decide on what they see is right violations, and, therefor set their own community/state standards?

If I wan't to live in a community free from crack users, why can I not get together with a community and put together a township, or county that prohibits that within it's boundaries? And if you disagree with said prohibition, don't go in.

Is this not how our founders set up our states and counties?


662 posted on 04/01/2006 3:14:43 PM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: tpaine
"Correct. They regulate the public aspects of objectionable behaviors."

Which restricts individual liberties. Which is what I said.

"Government has the power to jail convicted criminals"

More than that. They can jail, fine and execute.

"but only by using due process in both the writing & enforcing of the law."

Government is only required to use individual due process when life, liberty, or property is at stake in the enforcement of constitutional laws. Government is not required to use individual due process when writing laws. They may set the drinking age at 21, for example, even though an individual 20-year-old can prove himself to be more responsible than those older than he.

677 posted on 04/02/2006 6:31:53 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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