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To: EBUCK
"I noticed that it trained in right on me; the dog's coming right at me," he said. "I yelled at the dog as I was backing up. I screamed at it; it kept advancing and barking in an aggressive manner. It's unfortunate criminal what happened after that."

It didn't train right on him. The dog bounded out of the car, headed at first toward the side of the road, then turned and started walking toward the cop. All the while, its tail was wagging and it was trotting around.

8 posted on 01/10/2003 12:12:45 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion; Wolfie
From what I saw...subjective of course, the dog bounded out of the car, nosed around a bit then exited screen right. When next appearing, he was heading straight toward the cop at speed (wolfie, I read about the flashlight thing too, but the cop couldn't have known this), the cop took a step back (perhaps bracing his weapon) and fired at the dog point blank.

All in all it seemed to take less than three seconds from exiting the car to shooting and one of those seconds was spent off screen.

17 posted on 01/10/2003 12:19:58 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: NittanyLion
"It didn't train right on him. The dog bounded out of the car, headed at first toward the side of the road, then turned and started walking toward the cop. All the while, its tail was wagging and it was trotting around."

So that's what you saw on the tape? Be careful because the dog moves pretty quick in the tape. About 3 seconds is what it took for him to leave the car and get killed. Did you notice the cop that shot the dog in the camera frame when the dog first jumped from the car? Is that what you saw?

I'll answer for you. Of course not. The policeman that shot the dog was out of the camera frame when the dog jumped from the car. As a matter of fact, he was in the vicinity of where the dog was heading to off camera. The policeman retreated back into the camera frame when he shot the dog as the dog lunged at him. I bet you didn't see that either, huh? As a matter of fact, I bet you didn't notice the second copy spinning around to level his gun at the dog only a moment before he lunged at the first police officer did you?

"trotting around"?

Give me a break, that dog was out of the car for three seconds. You make it sound like he was out for an evening walk around the block.

Here are some more clues in case you missed them:

Now, we have been given a fourth "description" of the dog. First, before the video, he was an "English Bulldog". Second came the police officer's description that he was a "Pitbull". Third we are told by the owner that he was, well... a "mixed-breed bulldog" and now he is described as a "Pitbull-Boxer Mix". At this point, common sense should be starting to kick in. At this rate, by Monday we'll find out that Mr. Smoak has been under investigation for running a pitbull puppy farm and illegal dog fighting. Probable? No. Possible? Would you bet your momma's house?

Another clue? How about the mother screaming for the dog as he passed by her on his way to the cop. Is it possible that she thought, and probably figured that the dog was a threat to attack. She was absolutely shocked and horrified that the police shot the dog. This tells me that she wasn't expecting the police to shoot the dog. So she wasn't screaming because she feared the dogwould be killed, I submit the possibility that she was screaming because she knew the dog would go after the police officer.

The fact is that you did not see what happened in the 1-1/2 seconds that the dog was off the screen so unless you were there, you do not know what happened in the 1-1/2 seconds that the dog was off the screen. What we do know for sure was that this English-Pitbull-Boxer-Bulldog-Mix was not off frolicking in the daisies and according to the video tape the last thing the dog did was jump up at the cop.

Here's one more point to ponder (until I can think of more): Usually in news stories such as this where a family's pet tragically dies, we are treated to a photograph of the dog taken in more happier times.... Hmmmm? Haven't seen a photo of the dog yet, have you?

143 posted on 01/10/2003 5:26:35 PM PST by Hatteras
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