Man Wants Punishment for Dog Shooting

AJC.com ^ | 01-10-03 | JOHN GEROME

[chimera]

Perhaps, why don't you become an officer then?

Better not. I eat too many doughnuts as it it.

[DWSUWF]

"...He has a right, as I have the right to hold that his is wrong..."

It's very difficult to make the case for capitol punishment in the case of a human who kills an animal.

There are no end of religious, philosophical and political hurdles that effectively make this a non-starter.

I haven't seen anyone on this, or the other related threads calling for judicial execution here.

What I have seen are people who (rightly) would in a similar situation, where it was 'do-able', use lethal force to prevent, or to terminate, this terrorist's attack on their family, beginning with their pet.

Of course, this family was being held, unarmed, in military POW submission postures, at gunpoint, by this terrorist's accomplices, and had no opportunity to defend themselves.

This effectively rules out for the Smoaks all but revenge on the terrorist, exacted at a later and more convenient date, which I cannot advocate, but which I cannot truthfully say that I consider to be morally wrong.

My remark, in post 148, which you refer to is uncomplicated and direct...

”…If Hall were being lynched within my eyesight I wouldn't raise a finger to help him.

Regrets, if any, would be limited to not having some hot, fresh popcorn to go with the spectacle unfolding in front of me…”

Anyone with a passing familiarity with English can clearly see that this remark does not concern itself with the imposition of Judicial Execution, the imposition of capitol punishment by the state.

This remark describes my indifference to a hypothetical lynching of the terrorist.

In such a case I would exercise my sovereign option not to risk my own safety by intervening, and would regret not having a bag of popcorn to enjoy during the spectacle.

This may be abhorrent to you.

I don't care if it is.

Capice?

[visualops]

Yes, I knew the "reason". My point was, the reasoning behind the stop was terribly flawed in the first place, and then continued to be handled in the worst way.
There's money on the road, and a lost/stolen wallet.
No crime has been reported (by a victim).
The wallet belongs to a NC man.
Car stopped presumably has NC plates.
I guess the TN cops are unable to logically go from A to B.

[DeadlyEyes]

its just a 'dog'. An inferior species mutt dog. Was it a valuable show dog worth tens of thousands of dollars?

Hell a strange dog unexpectedly comes running at me I would blow its brains out as well.

[PJ-Comix]

Hell a strange dog unexpectedly comes running at me I would blow its brains out as well.

It sounds like you've spent a downtrodden life being bitten by dogs. Did you ever stop to think that maybe it's YOUR FAULT?

[kanawa]

http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html


' "Pit Bulls have locking jaws."- There is nothing about a Pit Bull's jaws that would physiologically distinguish them from the jaws of any other breed. The breed's jaws can't lock any more than a Poodle's can. In fact, there is no animal--domestic or wild--with jaw-locking capability. Pit Bulls do have a lot of jaw-strength, however. The wide jaws allow them to hold onto an object, even dangling mid-air. This is a trait that comes from the bulldog ancestors of the breed. Jaw strength was needed in order for a dog to be proficient at bullbaiting, in which the dog would grab the bull by the nose and hang on until the enraged animal was subdued.'

It may be semantics, but words do mean something and to attribute 'jaw-locking' to a breed conjures incorrect images in the uninformed minds of the general public.

[WFTR]

Well put and agreed to.

Thanks, I've expanded my argument into about 900 words at my own website. The commentary is at It would have been simple. I guess this topic's time has passed on FR.

[WFTR]

I love dogs, but it's a DOG people. When did we start caring more about dogs than people? When did someone getting killed ever generate this much outcry?

My anger is over the stupidity of all four officers involved. If the dog was really a threat, there was a very simple way to neutralize that threat. They could have simply closed the door. I'll even agree that any dog is potentially dangerous. That's all the more reason to close the door! Even if the dog didn't attack, it might have run onto the interstate, caused another vehicle to swerve, and caused a fatal crash. Again, they could have eliminated this threat by just closing the door. I lived in Cookeville for three years, and I thought very highly of most people there. However, this incident leaves me wondering whether they have any training for their police or whether they just leave them in a room with tapes of old episodes of C*O*P*S. Their refusal to close the door showed willful negligence, and willful negligence should be punished.

It would have been simple (to avoid the shooting)
Bill

[WFTR]

Nor should he. If I were in Cookville, I'd make sure this hotdog was looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life in that community.

The punishment should be on all four officers. They were told that the dog might get out of the car. A dog loose on the interstate could cause a fatal accident. A dog seeing his owners treated that way might perceive a threat and attack. The dog's getting loose created a danger for everyone. Refusal to take a simple step to eliminate a danger is willful negligence, and all four officers are guilty. I lived in Cookeville for three years. It's a nice little town, but they need to act against the two idiots that were their's.

WFTR
Bill

[Sender]

From Neal Boortz news today, 01/14:

"That police officer in Tennessee who shot that family’s dog during a traffic stop? Did you know that this makes dead dog number 3 for this police officer? Yup .. number 3. Now how many police officers do you know out there who have shot and killed three dogs."

Now THAT makes me really worried...and mad.

[EBUCK]

Great find Sender!!!

Ping for new info!!

[WFTR]

Do you have a link to this?

Thanks for the ping!

[Sender]

Do you have a link to this?

Nealz Nuze item is still up as of 8am this morning.

[WFTR]

Okay, I got it. Thanks