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Open Letter to the Board of the California Republican Party
ChronWatch ^ | Thursday, January 09, 2003 | Shannon Reeves

Posted on 01/09/2003 11:57:38 PM PST by dwills

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To: mhking
So by your definition, anyone who dissents with Bush or Reagan or Dole or Keyes is a "moderate" and "needs to go?"

What's so funny is that is the EXACT thing Todd does.

21 posted on 01/10/2003 7:37:21 AM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Jesse Lee Peterson needs to talk with him as to why he is playing the race card against whites. Fact!

So you tell me what Reeves and myself and other black Republicans are supposed to do when we are challenged with having to defend idiotic statements like those of Back.

"Uh, oh, no, he's not a racist. He didn't really mean those statements..."

No, we're supposed to challenge outmoded thinking and statements like that wherever they come from. Back (and Lott for that matter) doesn't get a pass because they're "good Republicans." And Reeves is not wrong for making that challenge.

How much of a "good Republican" can he actually be when he's undermining the GOP's message?

And who's to say that Jesse Peterson does not agree with Reeves? I only caught the last five minutes of his interview last night, but let's be realistic here.

22 posted on 01/10/2003 7:42:56 AM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
It was a good show and jesse said the n word at least 6 times, to point out that it does not matter. Oh he said the word is used everyday by blacks.

Point is this, we went over it all in that closed thread. That Bush bots destroyed!
23 posted on 01/10/2003 7:50:29 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: aristeides
Look, they are defending this rino again.
24 posted on 01/10/2003 7:55:35 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: TLBSHOW
highlight stump speeches at Bob Jones University

Didn't George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan speak there?

What, by the way, has happened to Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment?

25 posted on 01/10/2003 7:56:13 AM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
highlight stump speeches at Bob Jones University

Didn't George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan speak there


and Allan Keyes too! LOL
26 posted on 01/10/2003 7:58:55 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: aristeides
and Bob Dole but never mind people around here are so blind they need a new hobby!
27 posted on 01/10/2003 8:01:05 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: mhking
You are again falling into the liberal trap and Reeves is no republican instead a hero for the left wing nuts here


What we should be doing is pointing out to those "moderate" Republicans, both those who occupy elected offices and those who voted to put them there, that they are in effect supporting their own worst enemies.
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/01/09_GOP.html


28 posted on 01/10/2003 8:11:05 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: Howlin
I've met the man and talked with him a bit. He is a talented talker (I wouldn't say "speaker"), and he understands what's wrong with the welfare state on a visceral level. He has the raw edges of a guy with less political savvy than he might and would thus bite the hand that thinks it feeds him, but if he shook my hand and gave me his word, I'd take it.
29 posted on 01/10/2003 8:12:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (With friends like these, who needs friends?)
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To: aristeides
MORE RAT SPEW ABOUT THIS ISSUE HERE, SOON REEVES WILL BE A RAT HERO!

Countercharges in race for state's top GOP post
Another candidate raked for lack of sensitivity

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/01/09/MN2137.DTL

30 posted on 01/10/2003 8:16:04 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: TLBSHOW
It was a good show and jesse said the n word at least 6 times, to point out that it does not matter. Oh he said the word is used everyday by blacks.

I am black and NEVER say it. And just as Jesse Jackson doesn't speak for me, neither does Jesse Lee Peterson. I just happen to agree with him more often.

31 posted on 01/10/2003 8:20:21 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Baloney is baloney, regardless of whether it's sliced from the left or the right...)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Did you listen last night? It was a good one.
32 posted on 01/10/2003 8:22:47 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Keeping the Republicans Feet to the fire is a 24/7 job for conservatives)
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To: farmfriend
This is a problem with the Republican Party. We cannibalize our own in PUBLIC. This must stop. It's a fact the "d's" are much more racists than we ever were. Not that we don't have a problem, we do. Look at their, (d's), leadership and record need I say more? However, when they have a racial conflagration they quietly take the offender to the woodshed while publically showing unity.

Mr. Reeves is a very smart man, but he blew it here by sending this letter to Chronwatch. I have confidence the Californian grassroots Republican's could have handled the ignorance of Mr. Back much more effectively in house.

Everytime one of these pimples burst, it takes us months, years to recover. I wish we could force Republican's to read the writings of Saul Alinsky. Alinsky diagrams how to disrupt our momentum, if we weren't to smart by half, we could defeat this tired playbook. We consistantly get played like a Stradivarius from both the liberals and internally. I'm getting tired of it because we're too stupid to learn from our mistakes.

To quote an old song, "...there's a bad moon risin'" in all aspects of our lives and we need unity if we are to correct the situation.



33 posted on 01/10/2003 8:25:19 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: TLBSHOW
You are again falling into the liberal trap and Reeves is no republican instead a hero for the left wing nuts here

You have continually beat up on Reeves, yet provided no reason nor support for your assertion.

I contend, firstly that he would not have risen to as high a post as he has in the CRP if he were the RINO you suggest. In addition, everything I've seen and heard from him to this point says that he is as genuine as you or I am.

Now, you insist he is a RINO; what support do you have for your assertion - and I mean empirical evidence, not your continued railing against anyone who doesn't agree with you/Bush/Reagan/Keyes/et.al. In other words, prove it beyond your personal antagonism toward the man.

34 posted on 01/10/2003 8:26:14 AM PST by mhking
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To: bigfootbob
This is a problem with the Republican Party. We cannibalize our own in PUBLIC. This must stop. It's a fact the "d's" are much more racists than we ever were. Not that we don't have a problem, we do. Look at their, (d's), leadership and record need I say more? However, when they have a racial conflagration they quietly take the offender to the woodshed while publically showing unity.

Now on that note, you and I can agree. Unfortunately, there are some who have no problem with publicly flogging one of our conservative bretheren whose opinions do not coincide with those. (the "do as I say do or you're a heathen" crowd)

35 posted on 01/10/2003 8:29:49 AM PST by mhking (Perhaps both Back AND Reeves need a good talkin' to?)
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To: TLBSHOW
Ummm..I requested the thread be locked. You won nothing.

There is no reason any black conservative should just "put up with" treatment like Reeves' has faced. It's disgusting to assume someone black is a porter. When you see a black person do you automatically assume they are hired help?

36 posted on 01/10/2003 8:38:45 AM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Bella_Bru; TLBSHOW
When you see a black person do you automatically assume they are hired help?

Let's go one better: have you ever been anywhere where it's been assumed that you were the "hired help?" Pretty damned humiliating, especially when you are there in a different function (or for no damned reason at all for that matter).

37 posted on 01/10/2003 8:44:42 AM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
Hear, hear.

And it is perfectly understandbale that you are getting sick and tired of seeing your efforts wasted by the stupidity of others.

Shannon Reeves is NOT race-baiting. All he is doing is holding Bill Back responsible for his actions.
38 posted on 01/10/2003 8:44:43 AM PST by hchutch (I'll fly a Su-30MK - Cessnas don't do it for me.)
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To: TLBSHOW
MORE RAT SPEW ABOUT THIS ISSUE HERE, SOON REEVES WILL BE A RAT HERO!

Listen up, genius: Democrats wouldn't be getting any traction on this at all if jackasses like Back resisted re-fighting the Civil War as if it had some credible relevance to California politics. And if there weren't troglodytes like yourself who think it's no big deal that black Republicans are told, "You are in the wrong place" by white Republicans, it wouldn't be necessary for Reeves to say a thing.

It seems you believe only one type of black people belongs in the GOP -- those who mistakenly think prejudice against blacks no longer exists, and who will shut up and take it when they are insulted by people who claim they respect them.

39 posted on 01/10/2003 8:47:17 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Baloney is baloney, regardless of whether it's sliced from the left or the right...)
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To: L.N. Smithee
and who will shut up and take it when they are insulted by people who claim they respect them.

You nailed it! They are RINO's to some if they dare speak up. That alone is racist.

How dare they get all uppity when we ask them to fetch our bags! < /sarcasm>

40 posted on 01/10/2003 8:49:34 AM PST by Bella_Bru
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