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Your (allies) would include Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Mao and every petty dictator and royal since the beginning of time.

That's absurd, practically every state that has ever existed has had some sort of police force. You might as well say I'm allied with serial killers for drinking milk as a child.

Next time you’re mugged use your cell phone to call a cop. I on the other hand will use my concealed hand gun (w/permit) and protect myself.

I totally support your right to blow away anyone who tries to mug you. But your notion that you can safely be an island unto yourself is ridiculous.

You probably have not had to shoot many muggers I suspect. But imagine if there were no prisons, how many times would you have had to? Lots more. Most of the criminals are recidivists, and many would-be recidivists are in jail. Who put them there? I think we both know the answer.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

I found this at www.politicalthoughts.com/terry.html

Seems to sum up a lot of the feelings here.

Excerpt from Herald-Citizen interview with Cookeville, Tennessee Police Chief Robert Terry on the shooting of James Smoak's pet dog.

G. Galilei: Police Chief Robert Terry, do you think your officer overreacted in shooting the Smoak's pet dog?

Chief R. Terry: Hell no! The officer, who wishes to remain anonymous due to modesty, was hoping that the teenager would run so that he could blast him like officer Kent Moore shot Clayton Helriggle in Ohio.

G. Galilei: I understand that you have videotape of the officer shooting the dog?

Chief R. Terry: Hell Yes! You should have seen the look on the dog's face, or what was left of it's face. That dog approached the officer thinking he was going to get a treat or fetch a ball. Boy was he surprised! Of course, like everywhere else in the country, law enforcement gets away with the shoot first, ask questions later approach by claiming they felt threatened. Have you ever noticed how many people with a badge and a gun are paranoid and feel threatened? It is why I carry. I can shoot back at rouge officers who take pot shots at me. You common folk can not. You want to shoot folks and their loved ones with impunity, carry a badge. Ask officer David Hawn in Modesto, California. Ask officer Kent Moore in Preble County Ohio.

G. Galilei: Are you implying that the officer Hall will not be disciplined for this?

Chief R. Terry: Hell No! And oops on you, you stated his name. Look, the system will say he was justified and did not use excessive force. I can tell you for sure though, if it was my dog, I would use the same justifiable force in the center of his chest, or better yet on his dog. Give the system a chance to work though. If the system fails the Smoaks, then they can hunt Hall down like a dog.

Attorney General John Ashcroft responds: Acts such as this are what I alluded to during my confirmation hearing with Senator Ted Kennedy. I submit an armed populace can deter acts such as this. I say let's have everybody shoot first and sort it out later. How many more innocent people and dogs must die before we react? All kidding aside though, I have access to the unedited police videotape of this incident. The tape clearly show the family begging the officers on the scene to shut the car doors so that the dogs would not get out. The tape shows the officer was not in danger and fired out of callous indifference or cowardice. If Chief Terry continues to protect this cowardly officer then the Chief and the officers involved should be fired.

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But imagine if there were no prisons, how many times would you have had to? Lots more. Most of the criminals are recidivists, and many would-be recidivists are in jail. Who put them there? I think we both know the answer.

How pray tell did we go from not trusting the police to get much done, to not having prisons? I'm all for prisons and hope the cops fill them up, I just don't believe they are going to "protect" me, or that the are type people I want as close friends. Some of them are fine, many I know could just as easily ended up on the other side of the law.