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To: republicman
I said; "So I see, so the armed citizen is unable to protect himself against criminals then...very interesting."

Your response; "When did I say that?"

This is the statement that YOU made that I was responding to; "For I am quite sure all these who say we should do away with cops that can supposedly protect themselves and their families in a nation where laws could not be enforced."

I guess you're so intellectually dishonest, you don't even understand the trash you are spewing.

"And then let me guess once America became free the founders abolished all police? I don't think so."

You bore me...you think that they had police at the founding of this country?

Until the mid-1800s Sheriffs were the law of the land...that's right, locally elected Sheriffs who deputized local militias when needed to "keep the peace".

In the 1830s, Philadelphia organized an independent, 24 hour a day, police force. In the 1840s, New York City had instituted its municipal police department. During this period, police departments were headed by police chiefs, appointed and accountable to political bosses. Corruption was rampant.

Go back and study the REAL history of America, and when you get a clue come back for an interesting discussion.
123 posted on 01/09/2003 10:25:10 PM PST by TaZ (Amerika; Land of the sleaze, home of the knave...)
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To: TaZ
If you had a brain you'd realize that without any police the US would become like Somalia, a place where roving warlords rule mafia style. You think your pea shooter will stop them from controlling you and your family. What a joke.

And if you're concerned about the founders, who was it who said "we are a nation of laws and not of men?" and think for a minute (I realize this is a lot to ask from you) of how we could possibly enforce such laws without the force to do so.

The answer to what to do about corrupt policemen is to fire the individuals who do wrong, punish them. But get rid of all police? only a retard would spew such nonsense.
124 posted on 01/10/2003 7:05:43 AM PST by republicman
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