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Britain urges US to delay war until autumn (SHAME, SHAME ALERT)
The Daily Telegraph ^ | January 9, 2003 | Anton La Guardia and George Jones

Posted on 01/08/2003 4:57:05 PM PST by MadIvan

Britain is pressing for war against Iraq to be delayed for several months, possibly until the autumn, to give weapons inspectors more time to provide clear evidence of new violations by Saddam Hussein.

I can't begin to describe how unspeakably angry I am at Blair for this - Saddam should be dead already - I don't care if Blair has problems with left wingers in his party, it is the right thing to do - Ivan

Ministers and senior officials believe that there is no clear legal case for military action despite the build-up of American and British forces in the Gulf.

Senior diplomats have told the Government that there is a good chance of securing United Nations Security Council approval for military action later in the year if Saddam can be shown unambiguously to be defying the disarmament conditions set out in resolution 1441.

"The Prime Minister has made it clear that, unless there is a smoking gun, the inspectors have to be given time to keep searching," a senior Whitehall source said.

The uncertainty at the heart of the Government has resulted in ministers blowing hot and cold over the prospects for early military action.

The tensions were highlighted on Tuesday when Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, publicly rebuked Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, for playing down the chances of war.

In the Commons yesterday Tony Blair denied that the Cabinet was split or that he was engaging in "dangerous brinkmanship" with Saddam over Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

But he was left in no doubt of growing opposition among Labour MPs to joining an American-led attack without convincing proof that Saddam had defied UN demands to dismantle his nuclear, chemical and biological programmes.

The exchanges showed that the Prime Minister could face a major revolt if he went to war without UN backing.

As the tempo of military preparations accelerates, British diplomats say they can win UN support for war only if the inspectors can corner Saddam, either by finding banned weapons and components or by forcing him to deny access to sites or to officials.

"Nobody familiar with the inspections process expects them to come up with the goods in a matter of weeks," a senior British official said.

"There is an assumption that there will be a campaign before the summer because of the heat. The autumn would be just as sensible a time and in the meanwhile Saddam would be thoroughly constrained by the inspectors."

Although the Government has sent a powerful naval force to the region and called up reservists, there has been a significant softening of Whitehall's warlike rhetoric.

Mr Straw said he thought the prospects of war were roughly 60:40 against. No 10 backed Mr Straw in downgrading the importance of the inspectors' first full report to the Security Council on Jan 27.

Officials said the date was "not a deadline"; the inspectors should be given "time and space" to carry out their work. They also insisted that an indefinite game of "cat and mouse" was not acceptable.

Hans Blix, the chief weapons inspector, is expected to tell the Security Council that Iraq is co-operating in terms of procedure, but that he needs time to investigate the apparent omissions in the latest declaration of its weapons programmes.

Hard-liners in Washington see Iraq's claim that it has no banned weapons as enough justification for action.

British officials know that the real decision about the war will be taken by President George W Bush. Powerful voices in Washington argue that prevarication would risk allowing another crisis to divert the effort against Iraq and afford Saddam a symbolic victory.

British officials hope that London's reservations and Mr Blair's growing problems in the Labour Party will help to tip the balance in the Bush administration in favour of delay.

But they accept that Britain will go along with an American-led war in almost all circumstances, including a conflict in the spring if Washington is determined to launch an early campaign.

The first Prime Minister's Questions of the year, held at noon instead of 3pm under Commons reforms, was dominated by Iraq.

Iain Duncan Smith, the Tory leader, highlighting the spat between Mr Hoon and Mr Straw, warned Mr Blair that he could not win public backing for a war if he could not convince his Cabinet and if troops were only "half-prepared for war".


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KEYWORDS: blair; hoon; iraq; saddam; straw; uk
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Days like this make me glad to be a Tory. I can't stand the Labour Party - whingeing leftist bastards, all.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 01/08/2003 4:57:05 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Delmarksman; Sparta; Toirdhealbheach Beucail; TopQuark; TexKat; Iowa Granny; vbmoneyspender; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 01/08/2003 4:57:20 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Original post, FYI:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/819237/posts
3 posted on 01/08/2003 4:57:53 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats Piss Me Off !!)
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To: MadIvan
Are you sure this came right from Blair's office (I read the story very quickly)? Perhaps it's just a Labour Party politician trying to make policy by leaking their wishful thinking?
4 posted on 01/08/2003 5:00:21 PM PST by NYS_Eric
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Attack on Iraq Betting Pool
5 posted on 01/08/2003 5:02:52 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: NYS_Eric
I think the problem is that you have the Left of Labour saying one thing, and Blair saying another - this doesn't match up with what Blair has been saying recently.

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 01/08/2003 5:05:47 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Momaw Nadon

Oh yeah, sure.

We're pouring in resources and troops into the area so they can sit in the sand for six months. The Telegraph is being conned.

Idiots.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

7 posted on 01/08/2003 5:06:05 PM PST by section9
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To: MadIvan
I believe this train has left the station and there is no stopping it. Dicking around with the troops makes for bad morale I say get in get out be happy, 4 days max.
8 posted on 01/08/2003 5:06:36 PM PST by boomop1
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To: NYS_Eric
It is some leftist wishful thinking...

But they accept that Britain will go along with an American-led war in almost all circumstances, including a conflict in the spring if Washington is determined to launch an early campaign.

9 posted on 01/08/2003 5:07:15 PM PST by Dog (Never believe everything you read in the newspapers...)
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To: Dog
There's nothing in this story that directly indicates that Britain has actually urged us to delay anything. I'd be surprised if they do.
10 posted on 01/08/2003 5:14:39 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
Ministers and senior officials believe that there is no clear legal case for military action despite the build-up of American and British forces in the Gulf.

Wasn't it clear in 1998 when Saddam threw out the inspectors?

11 posted on 01/08/2003 5:15:12 PM PST by Shermy
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To: section9
I agree. And if we're wrong, much as we would love to have our British allies join us in this necessary fight, we can go it alone if need be. The Turks are with us.
12 posted on 01/08/2003 5:16:38 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: Dog; NYS_Eric
<< But they accept that Britain will go along with an American-led war in almost all circumstances, including a conflict in the spring if Washington is determined to launch an early campaign. >>

Bankrupt Britain doesn't have any army equipment anywhere near ready for our Mid-East war [A recent excercise in Oman was three years in the planning -- and less than three days in the abject failing!] and can neither get any ready in time -- nor get it to Iraq to be on time -- not even for a 'photo op.

And, when it boils right down to it -- who cares?
13 posted on 01/08/2003 5:16:59 PM PST by Brian Allen (This above all; to thine own self be true)
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To: Dog Gone; Dog; MadIvan
Ivan, both dogs are correct. There is nothing to indicate this is coming from Blair, or even from someone who knows what's going on.

It smells like a New York Times technique; make up a story the way YOU want it to be and use "unnamed sources" to bolster your point.

Steady on.

14 posted on 01/08/2003 5:18:03 PM PST by Miss Marple (Confusion to the enemy...and we know who they are!)
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To: Brian Allen
Bankrupt Britain doesn't have any army equipment anywhere near ready for our Mid-East war [A recent excercise in Oman was three years in the planning -- and less than three days in the abject failing!] and can neither get any ready in time -- nor get it to Iraq to be on time -- not even for a 'photo op.

20,000 troops and the Ark Royal are already on their way there and the reservists have been called up.

Sit way back in the room, Brian.

Ivan

15 posted on 01/08/2003 5:18:23 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Brian Allen
Go away, Brian. You are just trying to get in a fight with Ivan.
16 posted on 01/08/2003 5:19:12 PM PST by Miss Marple (Confusion to the enemy...and we know who they are!)
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To: MadIvan
"There is an assumption that there will be a campaign before the summer because of the heat. The autumn would be just as sensible a time and in the meanwhile Saddam would be thoroughly constrained by the inspectors."

Because he'll be laughing too hard to do anything else?

17 posted on 01/08/2003 5:20:33 PM PST by Argus
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To: Argus
Because he'll be laughing too hard to do anything else?

Agreed. We should take him out immediately. I think if Mrs. Thatcher had been Prime Minister throughout the Gulf War, Saddam would be dead by now - in her book Statecraft she explicitly states:

There will be no peace and security in the region until Saddam is toppled (Statecraft, page 228)

Regards, Ivan

18 posted on 01/08/2003 5:22:34 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Dog Gone
There's nothing in this story that directly indicates that Britain has actually urged us to delay anything. I'd be surprised if they do.

My guess is that this is a leak from a leftist Labour type in the government who's trying to force Blair's hand. The decision to leak it to a more conservative paper was a deliberate attempt to give it more credibility. Normally they'd be leaking it to the Mirror or Guardian.

Other than one claim by some leftie, there's nothing indicating that Blair feels this way. This is an attempt by someone in Blair's government to push this idea by hoping to get others outside the inner circle behind it to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think it will fail.

20 posted on 01/08/2003 5:35:04 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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