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To: WhiskeyPapa
You can't shoehorn a desire to force negroes out of the country into that.

(sigh) I don't have to, and I never did. That particular quote was supporting the first two points I made. The third point was supported by the other quotes, as you darn well know. As for his support of colonization, Lincoln said it plainly enough many times, in front of congress while president, for example. Anyone who denies that is being less than honest, to say the least. Ol' Abe would take a stick to them, in my opinion. If he were here now, Walt, I believe he'd thrash you silly for a multitude of reasons.

This is all so ridiculous. There can be no doubt that Lincoln's ideas were far advanced above most people of his day.

The abolitionists and the radical republicans who wanted to give blacks full citizenship saw Lincoln as an arch-conservative blinded by race prejudice. He actively blocked their attempts to achieve what you give him credit for doing. It was thier achievement, not his. I admit he was more advanced than most, but from previous experience with you, I know what you mean by those words, and you are wrong.

Your position is as false as it hateful.

Your position is the false one, Walt. I have shown that time and time again. You take snippets out of context and when that isn't enough you say they say things they don't say. You lie to substantiate your imaginary and fantastical version of "history". I no longer see you as a victim of revisionists, you are one. History is not just the parts we want, it is all of it. As to hateful, you are the emperor of hatefulness, Walt. All hail emperor Walt!

180 posted on 01/10/2003 1:33:31 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: thatdewd
Found this:

"The day before the Emancipation Proclamation was issued, Lincoln signed a contract to colonize Cow Island, off of Haiti. 453 free blacks were transported there, but 10 months later he ordered a transport to return 368 disgusted black colonists. Lincoln's private secretary, John Hay, noted on July 1, 1864, that Lincoln "has sloughed off the idea of colonization."

More later.

Walt

181 posted on 01/10/2003 1:51:29 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: thatdewd
WELL SAID!

what wp is REALLY good at is posting long, off-point passages of DRIVEL & BILGEWATER.

FRee dixie,sw

185 posted on 01/10/2003 2:00:04 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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