Another Eugenics Nightmare

Agape press ^ | 1.2.03 | Rev. Mark H. Creech

[ChemistCat]

One problem with the concept of eugenics is that one may inadvertantly eradicate characteristics that actually are survival-oriented, just not in current conditions. Take for example the obese. Sure, we seem fated to eat ourselves to death in times of plenty, though it seems to take us several decades to do so, by and (ahem) large. However, the ability to survive on 300 calories a day (my father's metabolism was measured at just over that) means that the species can survive much more drastic conditions. The people who can "eat anything and not gain weight" will die out first during a famine. Famine, by the way, has been more the rule than the exception throughout history--we live in a very unusual era.

Sickle-cell anemia is another example. Yep, it makes people die young--but not until after they are old enough to have reproduced. AND it confers immunity to the worst effects of malaria.

We can't do it better than God does. Not with the fastest computer, the best chem labs, the most gifted scientists. Anyway, we confuse cruelty with necessity far too often to ever get it exactly right.

[Chad Fairbanks]

My family fell prey to the eugenics movement in Vermont, in the 30s... Because we were american indian, we were considered 'undesirable'...

We can, in a large part, thank Margaret Sanger (of Planned Parenthood fame) for some of it...

[Camber-G]

The title of this article ... "Another Eugenics Nightmare" ... is all too frighteningly accurate. I see too many signs of the exact same sentiments regaining popularity today.

[infowarrior]

We can, in fact thank Margaret Sanger (of Planned Parenthood fame) for some of it...

Never forget their motto, "Proud of our Past, confident of our future"...

the infowarrior

[Chad Fairbanks]

Oh, I'll certainly never forget...

[realpatriot71]

I'm with you from a purely survival standpoint the more genes circulating in the population the greater the chance of the population surving a disaster.

[ladysusan]

I would hope that the parallels between eugenics and the forced/coerced adoptions of the baby Scoop era will be noted here. No one has yet apologized to women who lost children to adoption through illegal and fraudently obtained consents during this era.

The similarities are obvious; the commodification of children ( ie, the prices paid for human eggs these days) and the exploitation of women as breeders for others.


The main engine of contemporary adoption is MONEY, not altrusim. Those with money drive the process. Whether they choose to purchase an already born hwi with all the characteristics they desire (for an obscene sum,) or purchase a premium egg from a college student, or purchase cloning services , the similarities and motives are the same. People with money WILL have what they WILL have. It's about money and entitlement.

God WILL judge us for this.

[RLK]

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[John H K]

What has always fascinated me is the human obsession with "blood purity" for thousands of years, yet the simplest cursory examination of dogs, etc. (want a dog that isn't psychologically nuts and doesn't have weird genetic disease problems? Get a mutt) would show that as much MIXING as possible leads to the best possible human.

[VRW Conspirator]

I am going to weigh in with a Christian perspective.

The idea that we can breed a good stock of persons is absurd. Their will always be a nastiness about humans. If one tried selective breeding for a dozen generations, the 13th individual could just as well be a serial killer as could the first. It is the nature of humans to kill, lie, steal, cheat and murder.

So you are raised right and you act right. Your children are raised right and act right. Yet in every generation there is the predisposition to act wrong. Your great-grandchildren could be another Al Capone just as well as your great-grandparents could have been.

It is the Biblical phrase, "we are born in sin" that translates in contemporary language as "nobody is perfect". And nobody will every be perfect. Eugenics is born out of humanism. This point is the underlying falsehood of the humanistic approach to social science.

BTW, the founders of our nation understood this concept through and through.

[DouglasKC]

The people who can "eat anything and not gain weight" will die out first during a famine. Famine, by the way, has been more the rule than the exception throughout history--we live in a very unusual era.

Survival of the fattest...so to speak... :-)

[paix]

What years was the baby Scoop era? I've never heard of it, but am interested.

[Age of Reason]

The nearer a person is to being average, the more superior they are.

That there are so many more average people than below and above average people, demonstrates that the average person is the real genetic success.

[Age of Reason]

as much MIXING as possible leads to the best possible human.

barf.

[MHGinTN]

I believe the Lady may be referring to the era since Roe made it legal to hire a serial killer to deal with a pregnancy a woman decides --after the fact- she doesn't want to consider continuing life support to.

[f.Christian]

To: f.Christian

Sorry this took awhile to respond too christmas functions drew my attention. What do I base my life on? What am I required to base it on? My life doesn't need a base outside of myself to be fullfilled. Even if i didn't base my life on rational thought I would still not need a basis to be complete. You seem to need the support of a mythology to help you overcome life's problems I do not. Your life may not be complete without a savior to fill you with hope. I need no false hope I am complete unto myself. Even if every man woman and child on this earth believed in Christ I would have no need. I do not need the consensus of the community.

I search for rational truth because that is where reality resides. Truth is not subjective, truth is not objective, and Truth is not subject to the varied Mythologies of this Planet many of these mythologies being much older than the one you embrace. Truth is absolute. That is why in the search for an absolute truth you must often throw off the weak beliefs of degenrate religion or even the hard won beliefs gained from personal insight. Truth cares for none of that.

God is not truth God is a crutch for those to weak to cut away the dead limbs, shoot the sick dog, or take that first unaided step into the light of reason.


47 posted on 12/22/2002 3:46 PM PST by Sentis

[Centurion2000]

bump

[Cvengr]

Do you post the Sentis' remark to condone or ridicule?

As long as he can remind himself of his position while roasting for all eternity, I doubt it will console his future very much.