[georgiabelle]

Okay folks, we have talked this subject to death. We have called and e-mailed, faxed and snail-mailed to everyone you can think of and I don't think that one thing has changed. Certainly no one is listening.

Don't you think that it's time we staged a protest. Peaceful of course. It worked for the blacks. It seems to work for any of the minorities. And people we are fast becoming a minority.

So how about it. Let's march (in large numbers) where it counts. The border states, Washington and anywhere we can assemble citizens. Believe me we will find the people to march. Each march needs to have a speaker to announce to the world that we are sick of paying through the nose for illegal and legal immigrants. No welfare should be given to these people. There's too many citizens out of work that needs our charity and help.

Let Bush know that he will not be re-elected if he tries this amnesty mess. Get them where it hurts. It will also let the illegals know how we feel. As long as we have a welcome mat out they will keep coming.

Sitting at your computers and yacking about the problem is not going to make it go away.

[judicial meanz]

I think thats the only way we are going to get this looked at.

Until they know its going to cost them their jobs,they will play it to the line to avoid it, then they will do a half a**** fix to make us happy, which will cost us more in the long run.

If we do protest, we demand they fix it right the first time. Thats the best way to do it!

[Reaganwuzthebest]

So how about it. Let's march (in large numbers) where it counts.

Count me in. If we can get something organized in the DC area, I'll be there.

[World-traveler]

" Let Bush know that he will not be re-elected if he tries this amnesty mess. Get them where it hurts. It will also let the illegals know how we feel. As long as we have a welcome mat out they will keep coming. "

Won't work. Bush is on the "new world order" program daddy started. All you have to do is look here at FR to see most will vote for him no matter what he does. And he and his minions have already factored this in.

[dark_lord]

Don't you think that it's time we staged a protest. Peaceful of course. It worked for the blacks. It seems to work for any of the minorities. And people we are fast becoming a minority.

Peaceful? Do you think "peaceful" protests actually do anything at all, politically? Do you remember the "million man march"? Do you think the hundreds or thousands of people that show up for anti-war, or anti-globalist protests accomplish anything? They do do not. Yes, they get media coverage. Sometimes they get tear gassed. But no traction. They are not effective. So why do you think you would be effective?

Well, I don't want to just bitch and not offer anything constructive. I have no idea if any of these ideas would work. But. It may behoove some folks with legal training to review the laws on the books to see if it is possible to:

(1) Somehow sue companies that hire illegals. Questions would relate to - do you have the right to sue? What is your "standing"? Areas of interest may be, that you are being harmed by a company that hires illegals just like you would be harmed by a company that pollutes. After all, the presence of illegals in a community can be statistically correlated with a higher crime rate and a higher drain on social services. Thus you may be able to show that you are being "harmed", in that your taxes go up.

(2) Related to the idea of how companies that polluted were dealt with before there were laws on the books banning their actions, it might be useful to see how those companies were sued before there were such laws.

(3) Extra-legal actions. What actions could be done against companies that hire illegals, other than law suits? For example, you might form a group in your town that agrees to punish companies that hire illegals in your community. Raise some money, hire a private detective service for 5 grand or so. Get the documented info - how many illegals, what shifts they work, get photos, etc. Hire a 2nd agency to vet the work of the first so that you don't screw up and "identify" someone as an illegal who is not. Then:
(a) Boycott the companies that hire illegals.
(b) Run full page ads in your local paper, with copies of the documented evidence showing that they are hiring illegals. Ask all the readers to boycott those companies.
(c) Make sure your "group" is incorporated as a nonprofit corporation so that the companies can't effectively try to sue you back as individuals.

Face it - if illegals can't get jobs, they won't come here.

On a side note related to the H-1B issue, you are free to use the database (its been posted a few dozen times) to identify firms that hire H-1B's. You are free to privately make business decisions not to do business with them. Even as an employee of a company -- as long as you make decisions in your own head, you can't be censured for them.