Prosecutors are urged to fight against legalizing drugs like marijuana

Standard Democrat(Mississippi) | 12/29/02 | Scott Welton

[tacticalogic]

I have seen the "ends" of your policy and it happened in the late 60's and 70's where rampant drug use was no big deal and generally accepted.

I repeat: You will only discuss the ends, and then only in perjorative terms, like "rampant drug use". You will not discuss the ends in objective terms, and you will avoid any discussion of the means, because you fear examining those means in the light of day.

[Roscoe]

The drug cult pretends to be opposing the "FEDGOV."

"According to the United States Sentencing Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, more than 99 out of every 100 marijuana arrests are made under state law, rather than under federal law."

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2002/bills/house/H-645.HTM

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Don't you believe that BigAgriculture would try to outlaw backyard gardens if they thought they could get away with it?!

If BigTomato ever comes after my backyard garden (or BigBasil for that matter), I'm picking up my pitchfork. There'll be hell to pay, my man.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

My point is, don't argue pro weed from a BS statement like "weed smokers don't drive".

"I drive better when I'm stoned."

Yes, I've actually heard this. It's a weeping shame, but there are morons out there no matter what. This fact we've always got to keep in mind.

[tacticalogic]

"According to the United States Sentencing Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, more than 99 out of every 100 marijuana arrests are made under state law, rather than under federal law."

And how many of those arrests were made by state leo's assigned to, directed by, and is some cases paid for through one of the more than 200 DEA State and Local Task Force programs? Local badge, federal everything else.

[tacticalogic]

Yes, I've actually heard this. It's a weeping shame, but there are morons out there no matter what. This fact we've always got to keep in mind.

Better a stoned moron driving 30mph in the slow lane than a drunken moron who think's he's A J Foyt.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Better a stoned moron driving 30mph in the slow lane than a drunken moron who think's he's A J Foyt.

No argument here, my friend. If one or the other, this one's definitely more preferable.

[budwiesest]

..when I point out the failures of your "golden" era.

Golden Era:
60's hippies with flowers in their hair. or-
70's disco dancing in bell bottoms. or-
80's metal and punk with body piercings. or-
90's hip-hop/rap with hats on backward and pants around their knees.

Which golden era are we talking about? Myself, I'll take the Momma and Papas along with the British Invasion and whatever drug influences prevailed at the time to today's pathetic excuses for music and the police state/social services surrogate "families" thwarting personal responsibility.

[B Knotts]

Let me explain that stat for ya...

You are correct in that it is utter B.S., but note the careful wording:

"marijuana as a factor"

Meaning...well...not much of anything other than more people come into the emergency room having smoked marijuana than having taken heroin, which is what any informed person would expect, given that a lot more people smoke marijuana than take heroin.

Note: that doesn't mean that the marijuana use is why they're in the emergency room.

It's kinda like those "alcohol-related traffic fatalities" that we hear a lot about. Contrary to popular belief, they aren't necessarily fatalities caused by alcohol; they're just a method of inflating the stats to make them more interesting or alarming.

It's fun and profitable to lie^H^H^Hmislead with statistics.

[Cultural Jihad]

"According to the United States Sentencing Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, more than 99 out of every 100 marijuana arrests are made under state law, rather than under federal law."

In most locales it takes an especially Herculean effort to actually get arrested for this, too.

[dcwusmc]

Admin, why was this pulled? Since it met the posting guidelines for truth in posting... or did Roscoe get offended by the truth?

Hey Roscoe, read the article: Included with the letter was an open letter also dated Nov. 1 from Scott M. Burns, deputy director for state and local affairs for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, urging prosecutors “to take a stand publicly and tell Americans the truth” about marijuana and warning of “deceptive campaigns to normalize and ultimately legalize the use of marijuana.”

Since when is the White House NOT FedGov...?

[tpaine]

The drug cult pretends to be opposing the "FEDGOV." -dane-

Nope, it's the drug warrior 'cult' that pretends opposing the FED/STATE/GOV socalled war is anything more than a constitutional issue:



"There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that authorizes the federal government to wage war against the citizens of the United States, no matter how well-meaning the intent. The Bill of Rights means just as much today, as it did on the day it was written. And its protections are just as valid and just as important to freedom today, as they were to our Founders two hundred years ago. The danger of the drug war is that it erodes away those rights. Once the fourth amendment is meaningless, it's just that much easier to erode away the first and then the second, etc. Soon we'll have no rights at all. " Jim Robinson, 5/9/01 155

[Roscoe]

In most locales it takes an especially Herculean effort to actually get arrested for this, too.

The drug cult has a pathological hatred for the facts.

[HELLRAISER II]

I got ya, so a guy comes in and say's Hey man I need help I think that the Ounce of Cocaine I snorted is about to kill me. The Doctors well did you smoke any Pot? The guy say's yeah I did, right after I snorted an oz. of Coke. The Doctors Ah ha! I knew it, that damn Marijuana is to blame for your condition.

[B Knotts]

Even simpler: a guy goes to the ER for a broken arm, and they ask him if he has taken any drugs in the last 24 hours, and he says "yeah, I smoked a joint yesterday."

[aruanan]

Prosecutors are urged to fight against legalizing drugs like marijuana

You're right. The first thing I thought of when reading this was "layoffs and nearly empty prisons".

[Hemingway's Ghost]

In most locales it takes an especially Herculean effort to actually get arrested for this, too.

Are you saying it takes a Herculean effort "to actually get arrested" for pot?

[MrLeRoy]

You(MrLeRoy) were the one frothing

False; at no point did I say anything so stupid as that "the glorification of marijuana and the drug culture" is a "probability" or that "Hillary Clinton deomcrats" were somehow relevant to the alleged existence of a "Libertarian drug culture." Your post 181 was a mindless mess---even for you, and that's saying a lot.

[MrLeRoy]

MrLeRoy line that drugs as no big thing.

MORE lies about me? Are you going for some kind of Drug Warrior dishonesty record?