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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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To: Chi-townChief
What the he** is that thing? Is that their old mascot or somethin'?
61 posted on 12/28/2002 11:26:27 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Dog
The Bucs are thugs.....:-)

A-men. The next bet should be, "Who is going to deliver Warren Sapp's come-uppance?"

I would have bought Warren Sapp's part-of-the-game argument if that nasty block hadn't occurred 20-30 yards away from the action. Thug.

62 posted on 12/28/2002 11:26:33 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: Polybius
It's been cold since the snow so all of it is still around. Towards the city (Boston), there is less snow because they were mostly rain. Even less in New York.

I actually like the snow and cold. I'm used to it and shoveled myself out the other day in my shirtsleeves. It's the hot and muggy weather that I have the most trouble with!

63 posted on 12/28/2002 11:28:35 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: CanisMajor2002
Did you see them come out in the pre-game warm ups on Monday Night and act like thugs......then got whupped on the field.
64 posted on 12/28/2002 11:29:06 AM PST by Dog
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To: CounterCounterCulture
The original 1946 Brownie:


65 posted on 12/28/2002 11:29:25 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: flair2000
Who are you kidding?!?!?! As long as the Redskins have Snyder (Jerry Jones JR)as the owner we don't stand a chance. Look at things, Green's last game is tomorrow, Stephen Davis becomes a free agent next season and it's doubtful he will be back. Champ Bailey can't win games for the entire team and we do not have a quarterback. We are still hurting from the salary cap and money wasted bringing in Deion Sanders (enough to make this Redskins fan burn ever jersey I own).

I had high hopes for Spurrier but his passing game strategy does not work in the NFL when we don't have a quarterback who can handle it. Spurrier has not utilized out strong point and has allocated the running game to the back burner.

As I sit in my computer room, filled with Redskins paraphernalia I remember when we had a Dynasty. When we didn't lose to the Cowgirls 11 times in a row, when making the playoffs was a given. I miss those days and hope they come back.

66 posted on 12/28/2002 11:30:23 AM PST by Brytani
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To: monkey
Here here!! Snyder should just shutup, pay the bills and let people who have a clue playing football run the team.
67 posted on 12/28/2002 11:31:39 AM PST by Brytani
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To: Chi-townChief
Sure that's not H. Ross Perot in his NFL-playing days? ;-)
68 posted on 12/28/2002 11:32:03 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CanisMajor2002
What really ticked me off was his attitude after. I saw him on "the man show" I forget what he was asked (something about did he feel bad about the hit) but his response was I will have to see how he (they guy he hit) acts about it.
If he comes back and he has a attitude then there will be a problem but if he understands that it is part of the game then I will be cool with it.
Jackass of the year award for sapp.
69 posted on 12/28/2002 11:32:20 AM PST by winodog
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To: Brytani
Eagles could be footballs next Dynasty...
70 posted on 12/28/2002 11:32:37 AM PST by Dog
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Thank you for reminding me, today is Saturday football. I almost missed this game.

71 posted on 12/28/2002 11:34:02 AM PST by Brytani
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To: Dog
Good, we need more thugs in the NFL. Remember the old Raiders? When teams were actually scared to play them? I miss those days.
72 posted on 12/28/2002 11:35:13 AM PST by Brytani
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To: lonestar
He really is a hell of a player. Did you see the catch he just made in the first quarter? No heading for the sidelines for him. He was staying inbounds and running people over.
I also like what he said on howard stern show even though the league? made him apoligize and say he didnt mean it when he said he would not play with a faggot on his team.
73 posted on 12/28/2002 11:36:00 AM PST by winodog
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To: Brytani
Missed a Raider game last year because I didn't realize it was on a Saturday. Determined not to repeat my mistake this weekend. And I almost always miss those stupid Thursday games that they sneak in once in a while (not counting Thanksgiving).
74 posted on 12/28/2002 11:37:11 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Dog
The way the Eagles have been playing this year. How they did not give up when their quarterback went down with a broken leg and the heart their coach/team has - I don't doubt this.

75 posted on 12/28/2002 11:37:12 AM PST by Brytani
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To: CounterCounterCulture
No question about where my lifelong loyalties lie:


76 posted on 12/28/2002 11:38:10 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I missed Saturday football last weekend thanks to last minute Christmas shopping. I did keep up with the scores by running into sports stores that had the game on. Can't believe I almost forgot games were on today.

As a side not, I still can not get used to Thursday football.
77 posted on 12/28/2002 11:39:07 AM PST by Brytani
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To: dubyaismypresident
Oh, sure, they CAN win easily by 8 or more. But WILL they? As Chris Bermann would say..."that's why they play the game." Sad to say, my Raiders tend not to play well in the last game of the regular season (cough*Jets01*cough). We'll see.
78 posted on 12/28/2002 11:40:28 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Raider have the same disease as Miami does - fear of getting into the playoffs.

79 posted on 12/28/2002 11:41:22 AM PST by Brytani
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To: CounterCounterCulture
The spreadsheet I do, It's about 65%. It says Raiders win, fail to cover the 8.
80 posted on 12/28/2002 11:41:36 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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