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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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To: eddie willers
Good point....but they have to catch him first. :o)

In later news, Michael Vick is sidelined because he tried to outrun a divot in Cleveland. Doh!

241 posted on 12/29/2002 10:22:08 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: BraveMan; Rose in RoseBear
Packer Ping!

My prediction for today; Packers over the Jets by 14. (At least) Go Packers!


242 posted on 12/29/2002 10:23:19 AM PST by FBD
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To: BuddhaBoy
If Vick doesnt learn to stay in the pocket, he wont last 5 years.

Not necessarily true. Scrambling QBs like Tarkenton and Elway (among many others) had long careers. But you're right, his chances for longevity are certainly diminished by his style.

243 posted on 12/29/2002 10:26:06 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: BuddhaBoy
Kordell Stewart, is that you? ;-)
244 posted on 12/29/2002 10:29:30 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Let's Roll
Packer Ping!

Go Packers!


245 posted on 12/29/2002 10:31:40 AM PST by FBD
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To: CounterCounterCulture
If Vick doesnt learn to stay in the pocket, he wont last 5 years.

Kordell Stewart, is that you? ;-)

ROTFLMAO!!!

246 posted on 12/29/2002 10:32:59 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: CounterCounterCulture
CCC, if you want a trip, I've got the Cleveland game up on ESPN Gamecast, then went to their website to pick up the audio feed. The audio feed is slightly delayed enough that the GameCast screen will update before the audio catches up to the play.

(mutters about wife having the tv) :)

247 posted on 12/29/2002 10:34:00 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: CanisMajor2002
Couch injured
Kelly Holcomb is in.....
248 posted on 12/29/2002 10:37:40 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: CounterCounterCulture
LOL! Good one.
249 posted on 12/29/2002 10:37:49 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: dubyaismypresident
The Browns may have a chance now.....
250 posted on 12/29/2002 10:38:14 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: CanisMajor2002
Dolphins 7
Pats 0

Good news for Browns fans.

251 posted on 12/29/2002 10:38:41 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
Couch injured
Kelly Holcomb is in.....

lol...now maybe Cleveland has a chance... :)

252 posted on 12/29/2002 10:38:52 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: CanisMajor2002
Great minds!
253 posted on 12/29/2002 10:39:20 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: All
OK, the KEYWORDS have been cleaned up. Let's keep it that way and keep the TRASH TALKIN' on the thread itself. Gotta see who's doing the trash talking so we can rebut. :-)
254 posted on 12/29/2002 10:39:23 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: marajade
I dunno about better. They are doing very well, however Dungy left the bucs loaded. He built them up to where they contend every year.
They just cannot win the big ones when they count. You cannot judge chuckie on this year alone. Lets see where the bucs are in 2 to 4 years from now.
Look at what the raiders have done with a unknown, never been a head coach after they finished last year losing 4 out of 5?
I blame the swoon on chuckie and the fact the players were fed up with him. They have played much more inspired football under Callahan and go into the post season as a very hot team unlike last year.
The bottom line is chuckie has yet to prove that he is a quality head coach. Time will tell.
255 posted on 12/29/2002 10:40:29 AM PST by winodog
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To: BuddhaBoy; CounterCounterCulture
lol...now maybe Cleveland has a chance... :)

Bah! Beat me :)

Note to the officials...do not piss off the fans. I have been to Cleveland Stadium and they have some of the nastiest fans I have seen. After that Week 1 debacle I witnessed some drunks fighting in the ramp we were trying to go down.

256 posted on 12/29/2002 10:40:41 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: dubyaismypresident
Also good news for Ravens fans, that's one of the SIX teams that the Ravens need to lose (not including the team they're playing today). ;-)
257 posted on 12/29/2002 10:41:53 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: BuddhaBoy
Great minds!

Naw, just dealing with the same set of facts! :)

258 posted on 12/29/2002 10:42:12 AM PST by CanisMajor2002
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To: CanisMajor2002
Naw, just dealing with the same set of facts! :)

Holocmb's two starts were against KC and Cincy, not exactly great secondaries....

259 posted on 12/29/2002 10:44:43 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: Libertarian4Bush
I sure hope the Eagles play better than yesterday. Of course, the playoffs is a whole different animal than an end-of-season game with an already-clinched playoff slot. I think they'll step up.
260 posted on 12/29/2002 10:48:59 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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