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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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To: CounterCounterCulture
The Vikings have stumbled regularly through this season. The new coach Tice has them on the right track. They could actually lead the league in offense this year.

A strong final four games and 30 million UNDER the cap for next year, puts them in the driver seat I believe.

And Yes, I BELIEVE.

21 posted on 12/28/2002 10:50:35 AM PST by vikzilla
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Shockey's aunt was the first president of the Jasper County Repubican Club.
22 posted on 12/28/2002 10:53:51 AM PST by lonestar
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To: flair2000


Super Bowl XXXVIII champs

'Nuff said.

23 posted on 12/28/2002 10:53:55 AM PST by flair2000
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To: SamAdams76
The New England Patriots don't deserve to be in the playoffs this year. Since their first two games, they have played simply awful all year long. I'm disgusted with them.

Maybe so but Jay Fiedler's broken thumb put my Dolphins in a do or die situation tomorrow when they should have had the AFC East wrapped up a few weeks ago. Also, the Fish don't do well in the cold and snow in December.

Has the snow storm you had earlier in the week cleared up?

24 posted on 12/28/2002 10:54:50 AM PST by Polybius
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To: need_a_screen_name
What are your predictions for the Texas/LSU game New Years day? Who will win and by how much?

Texas in a Big Game. I'll take LSU and their secondary.

LSU 24 Texas 13

25 posted on 12/28/2002 10:55:16 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: mr.pink
I used to like Tampa, but Sapp has become such an a$$hole, that I cannot root for the Bucs anymore

I agree. I am suprised that he has been such a ass this year. I dont know if he has always been this way or if something triggered it. Maybe the Michael Strahan sack deal with Brett sent him over the edge.

I also want to see the bucs lose because of Chuckie. I think he threw a fit last year before the playoffs and that is why the raiders went south at the end of the season. I am not sure if he has the mentality to coach pro players.

I watched the thing with Keyshawn about the third game of the season where Key went off and screamed at him near the end of the game. Then right after the game chuckie went up and hugged him. I dont know what was said but most coaches would have told key off. Let him know that the team can do without him. Any coach that lets his players do that to him has lost respect.

Any thoughts?

26 posted on 12/28/2002 10:57:22 AM PST by winodog
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Thats been my team for as long as I can remember. And the pack in the NFC.
So I would love to see a raider-packer stuporbowl.
27 posted on 12/28/2002 10:59:48 AM PST by winodog
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To: need_a_screen_name
What are your predictions for the Texas/LSU game New Years day? Who will win and by how much?

Sometimes you wish they could both lose. :)

Gig 'em!

28 posted on 12/28/2002 11:00:13 AM PST by lonestar
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Go Browns!

29 posted on 12/28/2002 11:00:45 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
I meant to say...

Go Browns!

30 posted on 12/28/2002 11:01:27 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: vikzilla
The Vikings problem is they paid Randy Moss too much money for too many years...
31 posted on 12/28/2002 11:03:13 AM PST by marajade
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To: buffyt
I wanted to watch some Big 12 football last night, but I got paged and had to go into work. Who won? Did Nebraska win? I thought I heard that K-St. lost again to an inferior team in a bowl game (and they want respect)?

Anyway, Philly is going to the Superbowl and its too close to call in the AFC. Probably Miami or Pittsburgh.

32 posted on 12/28/2002 11:03:25 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: winodog
I love John Gruden...
33 posted on 12/28/2002 11:04:40 AM PST by marajade
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To: KC_Conspirator
K State won.

Nebraska lost

Titans look like the team in the AFC.

34 posted on 12/28/2002 11:05:24 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: winodog
Raiders/Packers ~ Super Bowl II rematch
Raiders/Eagles ~ Super Bowl XV rematch
Raiders/Bucs ~ Gruden (Chuckie) Bowl
Raiders/9ers ~ Bay Area Bowl
Raiders/Falcons ~ The original silver & black vs the wanna-be silver and black
Raiders/Giants or Aints ~ not gonna happen
35 posted on 12/28/2002 11:05:51 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture; All
Bowl breakdowns and coaching carousel

College Bowl thread

36 posted on 12/28/2002 11:06:52 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: KC_Conspirator
Nebraska Lost...K-State pulled it out towards the end

#$#^**& pagers

Regards

alfa6 ;>}
37 posted on 12/28/2002 11:09:22 AM PST by alfa6
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To: dubyaismypresident
Texas in a Big Game. I'll take LSU and their secondary.

LSU 24 Texas 13

You may be right, but "secondary???" Did you see the LSU/Arkansas game? That last play by the Razorbacks was special, eh? ;)

38 posted on 12/28/2002 11:11:13 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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To: need_a_screen_name
That last play by the Razorbacks was special, eh? ;)

I'd call it amazing....

39 posted on 12/28/2002 11:12:38 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: marajade
You may love him but I dont think he has what it takes to coach in the pros.
40 posted on 12/28/2002 11:12:43 AM PST by winodog
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