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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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To: CanisMajor2002
The Steelers get one good game against one of the weakest offenses in the NFL and we break the towels out? :)

The Towel is not a flag of victory, but a tool to root root root for the home team, especially come playoff time.

181 posted on 12/28/2002 2:30:11 PM PST by Petronski
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To: hole_n_one
Told y'all it was wet. Hopefully they'll be spared by any lightning strikes. Had one boomer an hour or so ago.
182 posted on 12/28/2002 2:33:36 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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Charlie Garner runs...TOUCHDOWWWWWWWWN RRRRRRRRRAIDERS!

00 Kansas City Chiefs
07 OAKLAND Raiders

2nd/13:11 left

183 posted on 12/28/2002 2:53:53 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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184 posted on 12/28/2002 3:03:02 PM PST by hole_n_one
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Rod Woodson INTERCEPTION!!! #8 for the year (leads NFL); 69 career
185 posted on 12/28/2002 3:12:49 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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Gannon to Jolley...15 yard pass...TOUCHDOWNNNNNN RRRRRRAIDERS!!!

00 Kansas City Chiefs
14 OAKLAND Raiders

2nd Q/1:34 left

186 posted on 12/28/2002 3:27:40 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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00 Kansas City Chiefs
14 OAKLAND Raiders

Halftime
187 posted on 12/28/2002 3:38:14 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Three Cheers for a totally useless *** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

Go Raiders!

188 posted on 12/28/2002 3:38:35 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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Janikowski's 27 yard FG is GOOOOOOOOD.

00 Kansas City Chiefs
17 OAKLAND Raiders

3rd Quarter/7:01 left

189 posted on 12/28/2002 4:07:43 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Let's Roll
A good friend's grandfather up in WI said he had 6 Packers season tickets. I've never been up there for a game (as a matter of fact, I've only been to Cowgirl games in God's toilette bowl - I live N. of Dallas); Dullus Cowgirls and their freak owner Jerry Dingleberry Jonez deserve each other. Hey Tuna, don't take the job!

I was offered (back in early August) one of the tickets to last weekend's Pack/Bills contest. I flew into Green Bay via Chicago O'Hare. I couldn't believe how small the town is (not much bigger than Denton, TX).

I love it up there. I was fully prepared for a very cold day. I had my ski jacket and bib. It turned out to be relatively mild (low 30s). The fans at Lambeau are awesom. Many wear cammo gear or deer-hunter orange [NRA friendly] and some folks have really cool hats made from various animal pelts (racoon, coyote, fox?, skunk!). It seems like almost all in attendance were pulling for the Pack - I was (and I'm a Redskin fan - I hate little Danny S. though). There was a couple dudes in my section (103 - end zone) wearing Bills jerseys. Both had on O.J.'s jersey. Thought that was strange. Even though there was a lot of beer drinkin' going on - every one I ran into was great and jolly - maybe they all wanted to be treated well by St. Nick :-)

Anyway, the Packers won 10-0. I had a great time; got to see the venue where Lombardi's (a great American of Italian heritage) kid-os spanked the Dullus Cowgirlz in the Ice Bowl, chowed down on cheese curds, drank lots o' beer, and got to see what Titletown was all about - screw all those big market teams - I experienced a real slice of America.

Go Pack... beat the Jets tomorrow!

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88; Law Hall (may it R.I.P.) Ramp 9 Mule; f.u.p.

p.s. If I can figure out how to post a photo on FreeRepublic.com, I'll attach one of my Titletown experience (still waiting on development - Christmas backlog at the photo finish store).

190 posted on 12/28/2002 4:13:04 PM PST by Trajan88
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To: need_a_screen_name
I'm going to jump in here... my pick regarding the t.u./LSU game?

Geaux Tigers... I'm a Texas aTm Aggie (what do you expect).

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

191 posted on 12/28/2002 4:15:25 PM PST by Trajan88
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All right, who's mucking up the KEYWORDS? C'mon, fess up!

The original keywords...
49ERS; ARE YOU READY; BRONCOS; BROWNS; BUCCANNEERS; CHARGERS; CHIEFS; COLTS; DOLPHINS; EAGLES; FALCONS; FOOTBALL; GIANTS; JETS; NFL; PACKERS; PATRIOTS; RAIDERS; RAVENS; SAINTS; STEELERS; TITANS

192 posted on 12/28/2002 4:19:44 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
errr well I take credit for adding the Reskins and Cowblowers - the rest I have no idea about.
193 posted on 12/28/2002 4:25:03 PM PST by Brytani
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To: Brytani
Confession is good for the soul. I don't mind the Redskins add (I just entered the teams that were still in contention). The Fudgepacker type comments, well, there must be some disgrunted Eagles, Vikings, Bears, Lions, 9ers, whoever fan. Sore Losermans. ;-)
194 posted on 12/28/2002 4:31:04 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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Raiders don't convert on 4th down for a change...looked like a pass to me, not a fumble. [At least it wasn't a stupid (T)UCK]

00 Kansas City Chiefs
17 OAKLAND Raiders

4th Quarter/10:49 left

195 posted on 12/28/2002 4:33:58 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
As a Redskins fan do you think it's possible for me to make a comment about football without slamming the Cokeboys?
196 posted on 12/28/2002 4:34:21 PM PST by Brytani
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To: Brytani
C-C-Can't we along just get alonnnng? ;-)

Well, as a Raider fan, I've managed to not slam the hated eeeeeevil Chiefs (thus far). Winning is its own reward. Washington can do their part and make mincemeat out of the 'Boys tomorrow. Best wishes.

197 posted on 12/28/2002 4:45:00 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Mincemeat is exactly what your team is doing to the Chiefs right now. Well, more like soggy mincemeat but a messy win is still a win.

Another Raiders touchdown!! Congrats!!!
198 posted on 12/28/2002 4:56:10 PM PST by Brytani
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Crockett, king of the wild frontier...TOUCHDOWWWWWNNNNN RRRRRRRRAIDERS

00 Kansas City Chiefs
24 OAKLAND Raiders

4th Quarter/2:18 left

Na-na-naaa-naaaa
Na-na-naaaa-naaaaaaaa
HEY HEY HEY
Goooodbyyyye!

199 posted on 12/28/2002 4:56:39 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

RAIDERS GET HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE THROUGHOUT PLAYOFF, never have to leave California for the rest of the season.

KC CHIEFS OUT...very competitive season this year in the toughest division.

Good news for the playoff competitors on the bubble, bad news for the division leaders.

00 Kansas City Chiefs
24 OAKLAND Raiders

FINAL


UPDATED playoff scenarios

AFC EAST
Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss;
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss.
New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 2) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss.
New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.
AFC NORTH
Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss.
Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss.
Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.
AFC SOUTH
Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie;
Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.
AFC WEST
OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title and HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.
Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND San Diego loss or tie.
Kansas City Chiefs: Eliminated
San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

200 posted on 12/28/2002 5:08:04 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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