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Thanks betty - I have given this topic a lot of thought over the years, the more I read and study the condition of the world, and simultaneously follow the prayer path... The chasm looks wider and deeper day by day.
\Here's something I posted on another thread yesterday;

Here's a couple of excerpts from Scott Lively:

"The Declaration of Independence and U.S.Constitution presuppose a benign moral order in creation to which all human beings are subject.... The Bill of Rights...implicitly affirms that there is a higher law than concensus of the governed, derived from God....

The humanist model, on the other hand, assumes that morality derives from the human mind, and thus may change with social circumstances. It teaches that truth is subjective and relative. For this reason every humanist system inevitably produces totalitarianism, as subjective belief replaces objective truth as the moral authority for social policy, and competing "strongmen" strive for the power to declare their own will as law."

(From a booklet entitled "Why and How to Defeat the 'Gay' Movement" check it out at http://www.abidingtruth.com/ )

(The article by Dennis Prager on whether people are basically good or bad...)