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Schoolbooks are flubbing facts - Texts filled with errors and political correctness
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Posted on 12/22/2002 6:27:27 AM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: LibertarianInExile
Before you dismiss a theory just because it does not help prove your point try doing a search on lava flows and the Grand Canyon. You will find US Park service documents and many Universities showing when and where the lava dams occurred. Nobody claims that the rate of erosion for the Grand Canyon was constant.
41 posted on 12/22/2002 10:58:29 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I don't think I made any point other than to say that if all Biblical teaching is fact, then there are a lot of people that need to start paying attention to all of it, and pick up the remainder of the Bible, especially that latest four-volume edition, where "casting the first stone," "turning the other cheek," and "doing unto others" are prominently mentioned. The focus placed by many Christians on the factual nature of the first book results from a willful ignorance of the crucial parts of the last four.

But I did come in on Karsus' comments about the gradual erosion, so I can see where you might think that I agree with him. I don't. I don't care--it's irrelevant to the issue I discuss.

See, I don't dismiss the theory because it helps prove my point to do so. Rather, I say that simply advancing another option for the reason the Grand Canyon is there doesn't prove yours, which is that there was a Creation in the last few thousands of years. Simply pointing out other possibilities for the Grand Canyon's presence doesn't take away the crushing depth of scientific evidence for another theory that does not agree with your own.

Thus, while I agree with you that no one claims that the rate of erosion was constant, including me--I never did make that claim, Karsus did--I disagree with the conclusion you want me to draw from it.
42 posted on 12/23/2002 2:02:47 AM PST by LibertarianInExile
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To: Capt. Tom
I can almost top that. I bought a cup of coffee for 94 cents. The cashier apparently assumed I was pulling a 1-dollar bill out of my wallet, so she entered that in the register and of course it said my change was 6 cents. Unfortunately, I gave her a 20. I stood there for at least 20 seconds as she mumbled "12..13...14...". Finally I said "It's 19.06." She gave me a really puzzled look as if I was some kind of genius for knowing what 20 minus 1 is, and gave me the change I requested. I probably could have gotten 50 bucks out of her if I wanted. :)

And to think, these people can VOTE. Yikes.
44 posted on 12/23/2002 5:07:10 AM PST by mn12
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To: Siggy
Way to turn on that sparkling wit and your only debating point, Chuckles. Why don't you go insinuate humanity is waiting to turn Nazi on some other site? That's the only reason you're here, as you've proven on a thousand other threads. Anything that doesn't suck up to Israel is anti-Semitic, anyone who doesn't believe your comments have a point is an enemy of Jews, etc., etc.
45 posted on 12/23/2002 7:18:21 AM PST by LibertarianInExile
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To: LibertarianInExile
If you want to read into my statement of lava flows blocking the Colorado and subsequent Dam failure as my claiming support for a strictly Biblical Creation; go ahead, and while you are going to all that trouble, why don’t you go ahead and post my replies for me. Maybe after you finish the debate you can flag me and I will come back and see how I did.
46 posted on 12/23/2002 7:20:07 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Good. I win. :)

Serioulsy, I assumed in context your position, as you did with my reply. I apologize if your position is in fact otherwise and/or I offended. I am sorry if the argument became too heated for civility, as I had fully intended that it not do so.
47 posted on 12/23/2002 7:36:02 AM PST by LibertarianInExile
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To: LibertarianInExile
I wasn't offended but I am not going to defend a young earth theory. I came across the Lava Dams breaking theory while doing research on the topography of Colorado and Utah so I new it had validity but it was still a theory even if a well accepted one with the only debate being the degree of the effect.
48 posted on 12/23/2002 7:46:22 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: helpontheway
give me a break... so you see nothing slanderous or malicious in this phrase, "To please rednecks in Texas..."? If not then you probably agree and are just as much an ass as Mr. Bennetta.

You also blathered, "But come on, the Bible as literal truth in a science textbook?"

Where does it state that the Bible is taught or even included as literal truth? WHERE? No where that's where!

Perhaps you need to read this part again, "Lone Star State creationists complained that the references conflicted with biblical time lines. So the publishers dropped the phrase "millions of years ago" and substituted language like "in the distant past" and "over time."

In your mind changing "millions of years" to "in the distant past" is quoting the Bible as literal truth? Come on.
49 posted on 12/23/2002 12:05:48 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: redbaiter
He didn't call them "subhumans" -- you did.
50 posted on 12/23/2002 12:19:07 PM PST by Junior
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To: Abcdefg
The universe isn't even a trillion years old, so you can eliminate the idea of Earth being that old.
51 posted on 12/23/2002 12:21:06 PM PST by Junior
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To: Capt. Tom
She looked at me and said "You have already given me too much money".

I would not have been surprised if she had given you back your ten dollars and told you that you gave her too much and gave uyou back another $2.00. The schools do not teach math anymore, and the students do not have to learn their multiplication tables. consequently they will never learn to divide. Algebra is fuzzy math to them. They will have no clue if the answer even sound proper or not.

52 posted on 12/23/2002 4:52:01 PM PST by chainsaw
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