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To: 45Auto
One of the considerations in chosing the M16, .223, 5.56 over the older M14, .308, 7.62 was the weight of the rifle and the ammo. You can carry dang near twice the number of .223 rounds for the weight.

Secondly, I have always questioned the use of hardball ammo for combat. I know the rationale is that one bullet might go through several bad guys but I'd rather be sure to clobber the guy I'm aiming at (HP or SP).

5 posted on 12/20/2002 3:22:42 PM PST by facedown
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To: facedown
Secondly, I have always questioned the use of hardball ammo for combat. I know the rationale is that one bullet might go through several bad guys but I'd rather be sure to clobber the guy I'm aiming at (HP or SP).

I thought the theory was to drill a neat hole, and tie up one or more buddies or corpsmen to rescue and care for the wounded.

A quick kill only removes one enemy.

On the matter of the FMJ 7.62, I had read that some Warsaw Pact ammo had a hollow in the lead filling, just at the point. Upon impact, the point would irregularly collapse, causing the bullet to tumble within the target..Yet it was still fully jacketed.

16 posted on 12/20/2002 3:36:00 PM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: facedown
One of the considerations in chosing the M16, .223, 5.56 over the older M14, .308, 7.62 was the weight of the rifle and the ammo. You can carry dang near twice the number of .223 rounds for the weight.

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The carbine round should be extened 1/8 inch with new more powerful powder and a slightly heavier slug. The old carbine round will go through 15 inches of pine and still be lethal. It will also burn through 1/8 inch slightly hardened steel and remain lethal.

28 posted on 12/20/2002 4:14:38 PM PST by RLK
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To: facedown
Secondly, I have always questioned the use of hardball ammo for combat. I know the rationale is that one bullet might go through several bad guys but I'd rather be sure to clobber the guy I'm aiming at (HP or SP).

One of the original war conventions, back in 1898, prohibits the use of anti-personnel ammunition that expands. While it was originally aimed at dum-dum bullets and WP bullets, it's been pretty much universally accepted that hardball is the only way to go.

35 posted on 12/20/2002 4:27:10 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: facedown
"Secondly, I have always questioned the use of hardball ammo for combat."

The Hague Convention. We don't use nerve gas either.

57 posted on 12/20/2002 9:04:06 PM PST by Buffalo Head
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