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Turning a Corner?-Lott Supporters Now Say They Are 'Approaching' 26 GOP Votes for Lott
National Review Magazine ^ | December 19, 2002 | Byorn York

Posted on 12/19/2002 12:05:52 PM PST by ewing

Sources on Capitol Hill say that Incoming Majority Leader Trent Lott of Mississippi has collected assurances from more than 20 Republican Senators that they will support him in a new election to determine whether Lott will remain as Senate Majority Leader.

'We have got well over 20 and are approaching 26,' says one Lott supporter.

Twenty Six votes ( out of 51 total GOP members) are required for Lott to keep his job.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: almostthere; deadlocked; evenrace; lott
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To: Coop
You act as if the GOP would not have been hammered on racial issues had this not occurred. Please!

We have a Republican platform that deals with race in an equitable manner in keeping with the core values of the Republican Parrty --- the party of Lincoln, in case anyone is under any misconception on the matter.

Now, thanks to former Yellow Dog Democrat Trent Lott, whom Republicans were obviously mistaken to think had given up his segregationist sympathies when he joined our party, we have to defend or otherwise finesse the overtly racist Dixiecrat platform of 1948!

If he had an ounce of decency, backbone or brains, Lott would have stepped down a week ago.

141 posted on 12/19/2002 1:13:45 PM PST by beckett
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To: dir
And if Lott stays, you don't think McCaniac and/or Chafee will not use that as a pretext for a jump to the (I) column?

Lott hosed us all good. But we can either choose to compound the error by trying to cover for him or we can set a positive course for the future by repudiating racism and segregation and letting it be known that anybody caught playing racial footsie with the CCC, Bob Jones U or anybody else is just not welcome in the Republican Party.

The big tent doesn't have any room for racists.

142 posted on 12/19/2002 1:14:23 PM PST by gridlock
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To: InspiredPath1
Reparations are next!
143 posted on 12/19/2002 1:14:43 PM PST by ewing
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To: tomahawk
I defended Lott in the past from those who called Lott a jellyfish, then defended him 2 weeks back from those calling him a racist, then he shows up on BET and acts like a whipped jellyfish reformed racist. Time to dump the walking talking Pinata.
144 posted on 12/19/2002 1:16:17 PM PST by WOSG
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To: dir
You guys keep hoping that Lott will be voted out as Majority Leader. If he is voted out, what happens if he gets mad and resigned. That means that the Democrat Governor gets to pick a democrat, that makes the senate 50-50 again. ONe of those RINO would break, and become independent, giving the Democrats majority, and we have Tiny Tom again. I say that I rather take my chances in 2004, after the Republicans have set the priorities that will help the American people.

I realize that is a distinct possiblity. I'm hoping that Lott has enough honor to not take his ball and go home if he's no longer "leader".

That having been said, I also realize that when one of those RINOs bolts, Lott will effectively not be leading if he were still occupying the Senate Republican leader's office. Considering that is a certainty (the fact that there still hasn't been any mention of cost to Jim Jeffords for his bolt makes it costless even to create a 50-50 tie, at least as long as Lott as "leader"), I'm willing to take my chances on a different leader.

145 posted on 12/19/2002 1:16:23 PM PST by steveegg
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To: DC Ripper
Or perhaps you mean the part where he said that most whites didn't really understand who Martin Luther king was and what he stood for?

That one really takes the cake. ... has he apologized to the white people of America for this yet?

146 posted on 12/19/2002 1:18:37 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Travis McGee
"Talk is cheap. Many Senators will 'informally' provide assurances now, just in case Lott squeeks through."

It works both ways. A Senator can speak critically of Lott now and vote for him later and never admit it afterward. These guys don't vote in secret for nothing.
147 posted on 12/19/2002 1:18:45 PM PST by SBprone
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To: dir
If Lott got mad and resigned, it would prove what I've thought all along: he's a traitor to conservativism and we deserve better. Door/butt, you know the routine.
148 posted on 12/19/2002 1:19:23 PM PST by DC Ripper
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To: beckett
We have a Republican platform that deals with race in an equitable manner in keeping with the core values of the Republican Parrty --- the party of Lincoln, in case anyone is under any misconception on the matter.

I'm familiar with the GOP history on racial matters. Unfortunately, thanks to an incredibly biased media, most of America isn't. And nothing will change, regardless of what Trent does or doesn't do.

149 posted on 12/19/2002 1:21:05 PM PST by Coop
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To: DC Ripper
Door/butt, you know the routine.

That says about all there is to say about that matter. If Lott quits the Senate, then we would not want him there anyway.

150 posted on 12/19/2002 1:22:12 PM PST by gridlock
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To: rightwing2
Even so, Lott's lack of political insensitivity is galling and his groveling to the race-baiting left since then is embarrassing.

Well said. Lott is not a good Majority Leader, he has many flaws. Even before this incident, many of us were hoping something would happen to take out Lott. Now it is no longer a good idea, it is imperative for the Conservative cause.

151 posted on 12/19/2002 1:23:14 PM PST by WOSG
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To: ewing
"I still don't think the party is united over this. My guess is 70-30 against Lott among the rank and file."

And I think it's 70-30 FOR. But it doesn't make a darn bit of difference what anybody thinks except those Senators. If they vote it will be in secret. The last thing they would consider in deciding this is what their constituents think. That's because they vote this stuff in secret.
152 posted on 12/19/2002 1:27:06 PM PST by SBprone
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To: Coop
And nothing will change, regardless of what Trent does or doesn't do.

It's not what Trent Lott does that will change minds. Everybody knows that he will say or do almost anything in order to cling to power. His BET performance confirmed that conclusively.

It's what the rest of the Republican Party does that will change minds. If the Pubbies come out foresquare against racism, and accept the reprecussions, then they can start to be taken at their word on racial matters. Republicans have been demonized on racial matters for so long and so effectively, they will have to be obviously and publicly correct on racial matters over and over again before they can expect to change minds. But every time some Bubba does some stupid wink-and-a-nod act like Trent pulled, it will set the Republicans back to square one.

It's very hard to overcome a bad reputation. You have to be better than everybody else and extremely careful in everything you do. Every mistake will be magnified, and will only confirm the worst things that anybody ever thought about you. This is the position the Republicans find themselves in with regard to race.

And Trent Lott is the kiss of death.

153 posted on 12/19/2002 1:29:38 PM PST by gridlock
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To: ewing
to the 20+: What are you thinking? What ARE you thinking?
154 posted on 12/19/2002 1:30:58 PM PST by j.havenfarm
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To: aristeides
"Lessons in humility can sometimes be a good thing."

That's EXACTLY what I've been telling myself all week. I hope this lesson bears fruit.
155 posted on 12/19/2002 1:31:18 PM PST by SBprone
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To: steveegg
That means that the Democrat Governor gets to pick a democrat, that makes the senate 50-50 again.

Not necessarily. If he resigns prior to 01/01/03, a special election is held within 90 days. If after, the democratic governor would appoint a replacement until the November 2003 elections.

So, if we're going to have to kick the bastard out let's do it NOW!

156 posted on 12/19/2002 1:32:21 PM PST by InspiredPath1
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To: gridlock
I disagree. The GOP has been getting 85% or so of the black vote. Trent Lott and the GOP just increased it to 86 or 87%.
157 posted on 12/19/2002 1:32:41 PM PST by Coop
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To: Howlin
"I want to see the NAMES of the people who support him, how about you?"

It ain't for us to know. If they told you they would be lying. Lying about leadership votes is a Senate tradition. I'm not making this up.
158 posted on 12/19/2002 1:35:13 PM PST by SBprone
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To: InspiredPath1
I'll take your word for it because Mississippi law regarding that is so convoluted (and I could understand Minnesota law).
159 posted on 12/19/2002 1:38:22 PM PST by steveegg
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To: Coop
I'll assume you mean that the 'Rats are getting the 85%.

So should we be looking to get 85% of the racist vote?

How about we just stand for what is right and let the voters come to us?

The Republicans will never be a majority party until they manage to convice minority voters that they can be trusted in racial matters. As long as the Democrats can maintain a stranglehold on the minority vote, they only have to get 30% of the non-minority vote to reach parity. To cede the minority vote to the Democrats is a recipe for long-term electoral decline.

But even if it were not, even if you could balance minorities with racists, I would rather be supported by right thinking minority voters than pander to racists.

160 posted on 12/19/2002 1:39:48 PM PST by gridlock
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