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Lott complains about White House leaks in connection with controversy over racial remarks
Associated Press

Posted on 12/18/2002 9:58:16 AM PST by RCW2001

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To: Darling Lili
Thurmond didn't have a platform on defense in 1948

So Lott was lying because you can't find something? And you want to give up the Senate for THAT?

181 posted on 12/18/2002 11:09:58 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Physicist
I still believe segregation was far from his thoughts when he first shot his mouth off

And that's a fair statement in turn. My argument is not with those who do not believe Lott's motive was racism - I do not think there is enough direct evidence regarding this statement one way or the other, and, since there is far more related evidence that he's an idiot, rather than a bigot, I'll go with the former for now. But I do not agree with the claim that his words were not racially loaded, for whatever reason he uttered them.

182 posted on 12/18/2002 11:10:07 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
But what he said is quite clear to those who care to follow through on the connections.

Sure, with an agenda. Of course there was racial significance to his comments. I'm just tired of those who "know" his intent. Many of these same folks (I'm not including you here) defended the Impeached Rapist to the hilt in the face of mounds of evidence. Here, they're the Thought Police.

Is Lott guilty of misspeaking, and then handling this entire situation like a moron? You betcha! Is he a racist, supportive of segregation? I doubt it.

183 posted on 12/18/2002 11:10:29 AM PST by Coop
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To: TLBSHOW
She's warming up the pipes and ready to blow!!


184 posted on 12/18/2002 11:10:31 AM PST by ewing
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To: TLBSHOW
That is just Tennessee politics. The Fords get behind whoever has the power. Lamar Alexander was supported in 2002 by the black Mayor of Memphis Willie Herrenton. Frist has made many inroads. He is too liberal for me but I suspect he fits Bush's ideal.
185 posted on 12/18/2002 11:10:36 AM PST by JDGreen123
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To: dirtboy
The issue is what Strom was running on in 1948 - which was segregation.

That is the way the issue was framed by Jessie Jackson, the CBC, the Dems and the liberal media, its not what Lott said. Why are YOU supporting their definition?

186 posted on 12/18/2002 11:11:22 AM PST by F-117A
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To: AppyPappy; Darlin'; dirtboy
"I never saw Thurmond's platform, only the Dixiecrats. Lott never mentioned the Dixiecrats. Please post the Thurmond platform if you have it. I would like to see what Thurmond said about defense."

Ok.
187 posted on 12/18/2002 11:13:06 AM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: AppyPappy
Trent Lott has publicly said:
As majority leader, I can move an agenda that would have things that would be helpful to African-Americans and minorities of all kinds and all Americans, but specifically aimed at showing African-Americans that they have particular concerns and needs that we have to advance an agenda that will help rural and ...

I don't want a Republican leader pursuing that agenda. I want a Republican leader pursuing the President's agenda of tax cuts and sound judges. Even worse, Trent Lott made it much harder for those of us with pricipled stands against minority set-asides or reverse discrimination to explain that we aren't racists.

188 posted on 12/18/2002 11:13:22 AM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: AppyPappy
Are you willing to give up the Senate to the Democrats over this?

That question should be directed at Trent Lott. He's the only one who can turn that seat over to the Dems.

And if he does that at a time when the country is at war, and the President needs the support of Congress, and the voters have shredded historical trends to give it to him, I will consider him the moral equivalent of a draft dodger.

189 posted on 12/18/2002 11:13:28 AM PST by Physicist
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To: AppyPappy
So Lott was lying because you can't find something?

Hank, at this point, this is all I can say about your position here:


190 posted on 12/18/2002 11:13:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Howlin
bush is caving on affirmative action on rush now
191 posted on 12/18/2002 11:14:12 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: F-117A
That is the way the issue was framed by Jessie Jackson, the CBC, the Dems and the liberal media, its not what Lott said. Why are YOU supporting their definition?

Gawd, man, read the 1948 Dixiecrat platform and get back to me.

192 posted on 12/18/2002 11:14:51 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ApesForEvolution
Lake of the Ozarks.
193 posted on 12/18/2002 11:14:55 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ApesForEvolution
And then, Monday night, he went to the other side and endorsed Affirmative Action, across the board, which is reverse discrimination...holy cow!

SO DOES BUSH HE IS FOR IT TOO
194 posted on 12/18/2002 11:15:15 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: sinkspur
Here's what is going to happen. When this whole thing shakes out, the Democrats will get the Senate. Then the Republicans are going to stop and say "Wait. What just happened here?". The Democrats are going to laugh their asses off because they pulled it off a second time.

The best thing that can happen is that Bush calls Lott into the WH and says "Do the right thing". Bush then holds a Rose Garden deal praising Lott and Lott can lose the election with dignity. Everyone goes home happy and has cake.

195 posted on 12/18/2002 11:16:27 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Coop
Is Lott guilty of misspeaking, and then handling this entire situation like a moron? You betcha! Is he a racist, supportive of segregation? I doubt it.

And I basically agree with you. My arguement is with AppyPappy, who says Lott's words were not racial. Whatever Lott's motive was (I lean towards imbecility), his words were loaded by any historical interpretation. Because there aren't very many.

196 posted on 12/18/2002 11:16:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: rintense
Bush doesn't allow leaks for things he wants to keep secret. He wants Lott to get this message loud and clear-- the WH doesn't support you. Bush just doesn't want to overtly push him out and make it look like he's choosing the ML rather than the senators.
197 posted on 12/18/2002 11:16:43 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: TennesseeProfessor
I don't want a Republican leader pursuing that agenda

He hasn't pursued it yet.

198 posted on 12/18/2002 11:17:34 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: TLBSHOW
Did you mean Rush caved into AA or Rush called it reverse discrimination?
199 posted on 12/18/2002 11:17:54 AM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: dirtboy
Bush is not a conservative he is a fake
200 posted on 12/18/2002 11:18:03 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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