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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; sauropod
However, unlike Communism, fascism abhors the idea of a classless society and sees desirable order only in a state in which each class has its distinct place and function.

However party appartchiks are a distinct "higher" class within any Communist state. Therefor such a state does not abolish social classes it merely cjanges the basis for entry into the middle and upper classes. Birth right of the children of party members is also presumed in Communist states so that instead of tracing its nobility to roots of fuedalism it traces its nobility to loyal party service and often to service in the civil war resulting in the Communist state. Is this so different than nobility being confered by prior service to a king in a civil war to establish his legitamacy or prior familial wealth? Further, there was probably more "class mobility" for the average peasent, factory worker or shopkeeper's child under the Nazi Party than ever existed in the Soviet Union without party membership. A German child in the 1930's did not have to become a member of the Nazi party to advance to say a professional position but the same can not be said of the Soviet Union.

Representation by classes (i.e., capital, labor, farmers, and professionals) is substituted for representation by parties, and the corporative state is a part of fascist dogma.

First, within all Communist states there has never been any representation by any group other than the Communist party and its appartchiks. Second, since supposedly all capitalists are abolished within the Communist state how can they be represented. In short this internally inconsistent lie can not be even considered.

5 Although Mussolini’s and Hitler’s governments tended to interfere considerably in economic life and to regulate its process, there can be no doubt that despite all restrictions imposed on them, the capitalist and landowning classes were protected by the fascist system, and many favored it as an obstacle to socialization.

The support of the wealthy of both Italy and Germany is not a given per se. One could make the same claim abnout the October Revolution of Russia. Clearly that revolution was supported by the Kaiser of Germany and many of the Bolsheviks were actually quite well off expatriates who had returned during the Menshevik government.

On the other hand, the state adopted a paternalistic attitude toward labor, improving its conditions in some respects, reducing unemployment through large-scale public works and armament programs, and controlling its leisure time through organized activities.

As opposed to the Soviet system which preserved leisure time primarily for the Party members and their families

In short ERF you really need to improve your personal analytical skills and study more than Germany in isolation. As to primary sources they are available in more than just German and actually from the period of the 1930's and early 1940's many of the best are not originally written in German due to the nature of the regime in power.

73 posted on 12/19/2002 9:09:25 AM PST by harpseal
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To: TigersEye
I think Dr. Walter Williams is hosting Rush's show today bump!
74 posted on 12/20/2002 2:44:10 AM PST by .30Carbine
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