Posted on 12/17/2002 7:17:04 AM PST by MrLeRoy
There is a distinction. You just don't draw one, so why should anyone else?
Correct---including the lethal, addictive drugs alcohol and tobacco. Just because I draw a distinction between marijuana and other drugs, it in no way follows that I must favor different laws.
There is a distinction. You just don't draw one
Liar. I already pointed out how often I've drawn it.
Is that a fact? I'm sure you can point out a ruling to support that statement. I can, and have, pointed out numerous court rulings that have found, unanimously, that it is constitutional.
Or, are you just saying that, in your opinion, it's unconstitutional? If so, you may want to add IMO next time. You're giving people the impression you know something they don't.
I agree with you that there is a distinction between marijuana and other drugs when it comes to addictiveness, lethality, etc.
I can do better: the Tenth Amendment.
I can, and have, pointed out numerous court rulings that have found, unanimously, that it is constitutional.
So what? As true conservatives recognize, the courts have been pissing on the Constitution for years (cf. Roe v Wade).
Money, however the last time I checked its legal and regulated.
The rest of you don't have to---the rest of you choose to. I recommend a different choice.
Really, could you please tell that to the IRS.
US has a big drug problem and in a typically US manner, act as if they are the land of the righteous and enlightened.
No, good analogy.
There was never an amendment outlawing a woman's right to vote, or an eighteen-year-old's either. Yet the XIX and the XXVI were passed.
As to the rest, I don't hear people talking about the War on Marijuana, do you? I hear the War on Drugs. On what grounds can you favor the federal legalization of marijuana but not other drugs (without being a hypocrite)?
I don't see any inconsistency in my position. Vote to pass an amendment or change the laws and I'll honor the outcome.
No, it wasn't. Here's the text: "What is critical," says United Church minister Bill Blaikie, "is that we make the distinction between cannabis and other drugs, and our drug war doesn't do that."
Why not?
Sadly they will just waste the money on something else that is counter productive to society as a whole. You can count on politicians to do the worst thing in any given circumstance. We would be better off if politicians had no money to spend on anything.
As other drugs should be.
Really, could you please tell that to the IRS.
I have a better idea: you tell it to your congresscritter. Using one infringement of individual rights as a rationale for further infringements is not a conservative argument.
Grounds? Isn't it enough that marijuana is less harmful than most other illegal drugs? (And indeed, alcohol.) Why is it hypocritical to think that that matters?
When it comes to Federal government involvement, I stated that you make no distinction between marijuana and other drugs, and you don't.
I have no idea how the states will make the distinction (and I agree there is one), assuming they ever get the opportunity.
It wasn't the federal government preventing women and 18-year-olds from voting, whereas it IS the federal government conducting the federal WOsD.
Yes, in order for the federal government to force the states to allow women and 18-20 year olds to vote, an Amendment was passed. And in order to repeal the (nationwide) Prohibition Amendment, another Amendment was passed.
That does not mean that to legalize drugs at the federal level an Amendment would have to be passed. Even under a strictly federal system (which I would favor, but which has been sadly leacking since FDR's presidency) an Amendment legalizing drugs would only be needed if the federal government wanted to not only legalize drugs at the federal level, but also make it unconstitutional for the states to keep drugs illegal. I'd leave drug laws -- like virtually all the criminal code -- up to the states. So I do not need to advocate a constitutional Amendment.
That said, my point to MrLeRoy and HG was that they are the ones who make no distiction between marijuana and other drugs when calling for federal legalization.
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